On Jan 22, 2008 2:38 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu@xwiki.com> wrote:

Vincent Massol wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:57 PM, justanotheradress@gmail.com
> <mailto: justanotheradress@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2008 11:40 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net
>> <mailto: vincent@massol.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> then you shouldn't try to install it!
>>
>> You could use an already setup xwiki farm instead.
>>
>> -Vincent
>> <http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs>
>>
>>
>> Boah, that's a bit harsh, don't you think? It's like the old Linux
>> developer behavior. I like to play with new technology, but I'm not a
>> developer. I'm just a student who spend some spare time on IT-topics.
>> I do that because it's fun for me and because I think, when I'm
>> becoming a manager in a company, I understand the IT guys better and
>> that helps both sides. You on the other hand tell me I shouldn't do
>> that. Thanks a lot.
>
> No, no you've misunderstood me :)
>
> You were saying in your emails that you didn't want to try installing
> xwiki and that you wanted to pay someone to do it for you. Hence my
> suggestion to use an already installed version for testing/using XWiki
> (i.e. a farm install like netcipia, the pro xwiki.com farm, etc).
>
> I'm more than happy that you install it, actually I even prefer that. If
> you follow this list archive you'll see we've always been supportive and
> answered questions from people trying to install it. However since
> people are going to donate their time to help you, all we ask is that in
> return you help the project in some way. For example you can do this by
> improving the documentation or by writing a tutorial for newbie, etc.
>
> I think our misunderstanding came from the email I saw from you where
> you stated that you were not technical and that you wanted someone to do
> the install for you..
>
> XWiki is very easy to install. Takes less than 10 seconds if you follow
> the packaged distribution. Now if you want to do fancy things (which you
> said you wanted to do) it's another matter which is btw completely
> separate from XWiki (Apache has nothing to do with xwiki, same as
> configuring your OS, knowing how to install a specific database, etc).
>

I second that. All you need to know about configuring XWiki so that it
works behind httpd and tomcat is already documented. Setting up httpd,
tomcat and the link between them (mod_proxy or mod_jk) is NOT something
XWiki must document. For example, the documentation for a game should
contain information about installing Windows, DirectX, drivers for the
video card, where to get a joystick from and how to install such a
device? I say no. The same is true here. XWiki is a web application,
comes packaged as a .war, and it is installed as any other .war.

Sergiu

> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
>> Thanks to the Howtos on www.Howtoforge.com <http://www.Howtoforge.com >
>> I'm running a secured dedicated Debian server with fully automated
>> backup jobs, firewall and so forth and I'm not even a "real" Linux
>> freak. I was able to run a CMS with a forum, over 400 active members
>> and over 1 Terabyte traffic a month (in 2 years, my server was not one
>> time down). So what's the point? Technology is only for guys who
>> studied it? Well, I thought technology is only as good as ppl can use
>> it. Right now you think XWIKI is only good to use it as a user, but I
>> believe with a little bit more polished documentation, advanced users
>> (I'm not talking about my grandma) could (I'm not saying they have to)
>> be able to install it by themself. That's all I was asking (not
>> demanding, that's a big difference!) for.
>

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