13 Aug
2009
13 Aug
'09
5:09 p.m.
Hello,
I have a few questions about how to contribute to the dutch
application_resource file.
Yesterday I have added some translations to the dutch translation of the
XE resources at the I10n.wiki.org site. Is there any documentation about
this site? I am unsure about what some functions do and the effects they
may have on others. For instance the link 'Import/reimport default
language file', Admin actions like 'Import' and 'Prepare'. Also I
noticed that when I get the dutch translation as a application resource
file, it only has the resources filled in if a dutch translation exists.
This seems logical, but as long as not all strings have a dutch
translation, my xwiki contains lots of empty strings. Is there a way to
build a resource file with dutch translations where available, and the
default english strings when not? Another thing that is not clear to me
is the functionality around reviewing and validation. If I find a
translation that is incorrect of I thing there is a better one, can I
just change it, or should I somehow make a review request to somebody
authorized to accept or reject the change? Is there any way to know who
is contributing to the same translation in order to achieve some common
ideas about how to translate xwiki terms?
Thanks,
Henk
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13 Aug
13 Aug
6:10 p.m.
Henk Schouten a écrit :
Hello,
I have a few questions about how to contribute to the dutch
application_resource file.
Yesterday I have added some translations to the dutch translation of the
XE resources at the I10n.wiki.org site. Is there any documentation about
this site? I am unsure about what some functions do and the effects they
may have on others. For instance the link 'Import/reimport default
language file',
It is not needed to run this as it is run automatically every
night
Admin actions like 'Import' and
'Prepare'. Also I
Import is only to be used for initial import of a language.
Prepare is run in the overnight process.
noticed that when I get the dutch translation as a
application resource
file, it only has the resources filled in if a dutch translation exists.
This seems logical, but as long as not all strings have a dutch
translation, my xwiki contains lots of empty strings. Is there a way to
It is not normal that your wiki has empty strings. Normally it
automatically falls back to the translation in
ApplicationResources.properties
when it cannot find one in the language file. This is why normally
ApplicationResources.properties and ApplicationResources_en.properties
are the same.
Maybe there is an issue there and they are different ?
build a resource file with dutch translations where
available, and the
default english strings when not? Another thing that is not clear to me
is the functionality around reviewing and validation. If I find a
Reviewing is there so that at some point if we have more translators we
can have some that are more trusted than others and act as reviewers.
If a translation already exists and is changed then it will only be
output if the translation has been reviewed.
At this point we don't have enough translators, so you could act as your
own reviewer, or ask a friend to ask as a reviewer.
Having two looks is a good thing in any way so I would prefer we keep
the 2 steps.
translation that is incorrect of I thing there is a
better one, can I
just change it, or should I somehow make a review request to somebody
You can change it.
As we don't have any official responsible person for Dutch translations
it's ok if you auto review it.
authorized to accept or reject the change? Is there
any way to know who
is contributing to the same translation in order to achieve some common
ideas about how to translate xwiki terms?
I suggest we create a space on the Wiki so that volunteer translators
list themselves and communicate.
At this point it's the right place here to tell that you are interested
in Dutch translations.
Welcome to the translator world !
Ludovic
Thanks,
Henk
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XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
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6:16 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 18:10, Ludovic Dubost<ludovic(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
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Henk Schouten a écrit :
Actually i think i know what is the issue: when you ask for formated
resource file all the keys are listed, even the empty one. The
translation system go to default translation only if there is no
translation provided for a key, empty is valid. I think l10n should
skip empty translations.
Hello,
I have a few questions about how to contribute to the dutch
application_resource file.
Yesterday I have added some translations to the dutch translation of the
XE resources at the I10n.wiki.org site. Is there any documentation about
this site? I am unsure about what some functions do and the effects they
may have on others. For instance the link 'Import/reimport default
language file',
It is not needed to run this as it is run automatically every
night
Admin actions like 'Import' and
'Prepare'. Also I
Import is only to be used for initial import of a language.
Prepare is run in the overnight process.
noticed that when I get the dutch translation as
a application resource
file, it only has the resources filled in if a dutch translation exists.
This seems logical, but as long as not all strings have a dutch
translation, my xwiki contains lots of empty strings. Is there a way to
It is not normal that your wiki has empty strings. Normally it
automatically falls back to the translation in
ApplicationResources.properties
when it cannot find one in the language file. This is why normally
ApplicationResources.properties and ApplicationResources_en.properties
are the same.
Maybe there is an issue there and they are different ? build a resource file with dutch translations
where available, and the
default english strings when not? Another thing that is not clear to me
is the functionality around reviewing and validation. If I find a
Reviewing is there so that at some point if we have more translators we
can have some that are more trusted than others and act as reviewers.
If a translation already exists and is changed then it will only be
output if the translation has been reviewed.
At this point we don't have enough translators, so you could act as your
own reviewer, or ask a friend to ask as a reviewer.
Having two looks is a good thing in any way so I would prefer we keep
the 2 steps.
translation that is incorrect of I thing there is
a better one, can I
just change it, or should I somehow make a review request to somebody
You can change it.
As we don't have any official responsible person for Dutch translations
it's ok if you auto review it.
authorized to accept or reject the change? Is
there any way to know who
is contributing to the same translation in order to achieve some common
ideas about how to translate xwiki terms?
I suggest we create a space on the Wiki so that volunteer translators
list themselves and communicate.
At this point it's the right place here to tell that you are interested
in Dutch translations.
Welcome to the translator world !
Ludovic
Thanks,
Henk
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Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
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7:36 p.m.
Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
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Actually i think i know what is the issue: when you ask for formated
resource file all the keys are listed, even the empty one. The
translation system go to default translation only if there is no
translation provided for a key, empty is valid. I think l10n should
skip empty translations.
Ok I fixed it.. If it's still time you might want to recommit the
translations files since they are now generated without the keys with
empty values
Ludovic
7:50 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 19:36, Ludovic Dubost<ludovic(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
I fixed them already directly with a regexp
Actually i think i know what is the issue: when you ask for formated
resource file all the keys are listed, even the empty one. The
translation system go to default translation only if there is no
translation provided for a key, empty is valid. I think l10n should
skip empty translations.
Ok I fixed it.. If it's still time you might want to recommit the
translations files since they are now generated without the keys with
empty values
Ludovic
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7:51 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 19:50, Thomas Mortagne<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 19:36, Ludovic
Dubost<ludovic(a)xwiki.org> wrote:
Anyway i will recommit all to normalize since i seen there is lots of
translations files not based on l10n which makes impossible to compare
them.
Thomas Mortagne a écrit :
I fixed them already directly with a regexp
Actually i think i know what is the issue: when you ask for formated
resource file all the keys are listed, even the empty one. The
translation system go to default translation only if there is no
translation provided for a key, empty is valid. I think l10n should
skip empty translations.
Ok I fixed it.. If it's still time you might want to recommit the
translations files since they are now generated without the keys with
empty values
Ludovic
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