Fair point indeed,
 
I'll agree first up that anything relevant on the maillists 
should go onto the xwiki.org site - totally valid.
 
Being on sevreal different forums (from technical to 
consumer), and different maillists, I think it's true that there is no one 
solution.  A really good user group tool is one that is workable via forum 
and email (such as google groups), in this way answers come to you, but you can 
also easily research problems (and answer older problems too).  I've had to 
dig a few times through the maillist and usually end up re-emailing the list - 
as much as 90% of the time; purely as it's not an easily searchable 
interface.  Forums are designed to be easily searchable (the ones I've used 
anyway, phpBB being the most flexible); and are also designed with the 
"sticky/announcement" features built in - so important/often-asked topics can be 
answered quickly, without re-posting.
Know what would really rock?  Creating a class and 
relevant documents to mimic a forum within the xwiki.org site; linked into the 
email lists (so that "topics" or master documents are automatically 
created).  XWiki already has a tagging interface (haven't used it much yet 
though myself), and it would be quite a nice improvement over the older - dated 
- FAQ class example.
 
Perhaps what would help is to setup the proposed system for 
review; and we can see how that works.  
 
To be perfectly honest, if folks are 
really behind a forum, as to the cost of setting up forums/etc.. there are a lot 
of free hosting solutions that offer phpBB, and variants of it (including phpBB 
themselves); so the cost of it is not too prohibitive, especially if it's run by 
users.  
And yeah, if folks are happy to buy into the idea; I'll set 
it up and help anyone else interested in assisting with maintaining 
it (ensuring xwiki devs have logon details to the admin account naturally, 
just in case).
On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:
  Actually, I'd be inclined to say the pro's far exceed the 
  cons on a forum...
Actually, I'd be inclined to say that cons far exceed the pros on a forum 
:-)
What this means is that you need to answer to the points I've raised 
against a forum. You can't just say you'd like one. In my post I've answered 
Sergiu's points and proposed an alternative solution. I'm curious to know why 
you think the proposed solution is not good enough.
In the case we agree to have a forum, does this mean you're willing to set 
it up, administer it and pay for the cost of the hardware? :)
 
Thanks
-Vincent
  
  
  Forum - Yes.
   
  
  Hi,
We're currently using mailing lists and IRC (and 
  person2person chats) for answering user questions. But:
- IRC has no 
  history (yet; when's that bot coming online?)
- mailing lists are not that 
  easy to browse and search. 
Should we make a forum for 
  users?
Pro
- One place where users can find information, organized 
  by topics
- Users are used to posting on forums, and we might get a larger 
  community
Con
- Soon it will get too crowded, and (some) developers 
  won't have the time to answer all the emails; we need a strong community, and 
  advanced users knowing the code, and for this we need documentation 
As a developer, I'd stick to mailing lists.
As a user, I'd 
  say forum.
What's your opinion?
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