19 May
2010
19 May
'10
3:52 p.m.
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:39, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I completely agree that proposal 3 is clearer. The problem is that
your samples and the structure of this proposal are really far from current
implementation.
Proposal 2 were fitting better but the samples where also not realistic and
remarks from Thomas about global wiki users should also be integrated.
So, I am puzzle by your goals here. Aren't we going too fast ?
Since there is very poor documentation about the way XWiki rights works (I
would be happy to improve that, but it will require some time), I have the
impression that there is a important misunderstanding of how inheritance is
effectively applied. So the design of a proper UI is not easy. I have also
read the draft of Sergiu that aims to improve the documentation, but either
I have not understand it or it does not describe current behavior.
So the question is for me, are we designing this UI to think about future
possibilities or to replace the current UI ?
Denis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 18:29, Denis Gervalle
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights3Page
Nice indeed, but I do not understand how it could fits with current
implementation.
For example, in Space Level
http://localhost:8084/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights3Space
the text in yellow represents the inherited users and inherited roles from
upper level.
The text in black (evalica with Reviewer and the Reviewer definition) is
specified only for this level.
After the save the added "Reviewer" right is gonna look like this:
http://localhost:8084/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights3Proposal/addU6…
Thanks for these precision, I have better understand your idea. (Personally
I have some difficulties with colors (partially color blind), so information
based on colors is not always easy for me.)
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 17:08, Guillaume Lerouge
<guillaume(a)xwiki.com
Management
wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:03, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've reviewed some of your feedback and added them to Rights > UI
> > Proposal *VERSION 3*:
> >
> > *Partial Prototype*
> >
> > - Wiki Level:
> >
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights3Wiki
> -
Space Level:
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights3Space
> > - Page Level:
> > > >
> > *Desired Interaction*
> >
> > -
> >
>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights3Proposal
Thanks,
Caty
I like the separation between rights definition and rights affectation.
Only
downside -> inherited rights are displayed
less clearly than what they
were
in version 2.
and I do not see any inherited information anymore.
So, proposal 3 seems less interesting than proposal 2. I do not see what
it
solves based on previous comments either.
Caty, could you explain further your goals with this proposal ?
I tried in proposal 3 to make it more easy to use. People told me that they
didn't understood the "Containing Spaces/Pages" so I've removed it.
This proposal gives the users the possibility to create Roles that can have
semantically value to them and thus making the rights more easy to use.
This proposal accommodates the case: "Not sure it's scalable. In the future
applications/components will be able to register new rights".
Having the rights displayed vertically and only on Add, makes the UI more
scalable, and in the code we could add as many rights as we would want.
Also
the spaces is now more economical having just "Allow"/"Deny" columns.
Thanks,
Caty
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Also, a drop-down might be better than an autosuggest when selecting
which
right should be added to a role.
Guillaume
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