Hi Brandon,
On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:
  Vincent/Sergiu:
 I'm a bit dubious that the Panel's should stay in the "Code"
 section: as it is an integral part of the official xwiki10 beta
 skin, should it not be a part of the actual skin docs? 
It's currently a little bit coupled to the skin but we have a jira
issue to decouple it. It's really an application in the same way that
we have other applications such as the blog, calendar, photo album,
even the Class Wizard, etc.
Conversely you could use the Panels with the old skin or with any
custom skin.
All that said, I do agree to put links to the Panels app from
different places: the skin guide, the download page, etc.
Any reason you don't think it's an application?
  The Panel system is also imported with the main xwiki
system import
 (which includes groups, admin user, etc); thus making it more a
 part of the system than a seperate add on in my mind. 
The default wiki includes lots of plugins and applications. That
doesn't mean that if you're creating your own wiki you need to
include all the apps and plugins included in the default wikis.
In the future I'd like to:
1) move all plugins in svn in xwiki-plugins and make them available
separately
2) do the same for applications. Users would be able to pick whatever
applications they want and the community will be able to contribute
new applications.
Of course the default wiki will continue to pick plugins and
applications from the available set.
Have I convinced you? :-)
Thanks
-Vincent
  From: Sergiu Dumitriu
[mailto:sergiu.dumitriu@gmail.com]
 Sent: 26 January 2007 22:37
 To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] add elements to menu and edit menu problem
 Starting from Beta2, the Panel Wizard works in Internet Explorer, too.
 On 1/26/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net > wrote:
 On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Esbach, Brandon wrote:
  We'll need to add a section to the Admin docs
for editing Panels
 (subsection to the skins, I can look at this later next week if
 nobody else already doing same). 
 Cool. Yes that would be good to do. One thing to note is that I've
 considered Panels to be an application so far. Thus it's documented
 in the Code Zone in  
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Code/
 PanelsApplication
 I'd like to keep the documentation there (but it can certainly be
 improved). However we definitely need to put pointers to it in
 different places.
 thanks for taking care of this!
 -Vincent
  In Beta1 and above, the sidebars are actually
referred to as
 Panels (assuming you're using the xwiki10b1 skin).
 Before doing the following you will need to login as Administrator.
 Here's the rough set of steps to do what you're looking to do:
 To edit or add Panels:
 1) Change your url to look something like the following:
     
http://yourserver:8080/xwiki/bin/view/Panels/
 2) You should be presented with a listing of current panels, with
 options to edit and add new panels.
 3) NOTE: the Panel Wizard does not work for Internet Explorer.
 4) Add any panels you wish to include, check first though as you
 may find what you want in the existing panels.  Alternatively,
 edit an existing panel to     reflect what you wish to show.
 To get access to what Panels are loaded (and where), click on the
 link Administration under the "Log out" link in the top right hand
 corner.
 1) Select the "Skin" section.  You should most likely be using
 xwiki10b1's skin, as default - if not, it is the better one to
 use, and it uses panels which are easier to manage than raw coded
 menus.
 2) In the "Left Panels" entry, type in the name of each Panel to
 show in the left hand column.  This should be in the format "
 Panels.MiniSearch"; seperated by a comma (eg:
 Panels.MiniSearch,Panels.HomePanel)
 3) There is a seperate choice of showing the Left Panel, and for
 showing the Right Panel.  Make sure the one you wish to use has
 "Yes" selected (by     default, the Right Panel is set to "Yes";
 while the Left Panel is set to "No").
 That's pretty much it...
 From: Маловичко Дмитрий [ mailto:drdred87@mail.ru]
 Sent: 26 January 2007 11:53
 To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org
 Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] add elements to menu and edit menu problem
 The version is beta1, can you help me please with this problem?
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Esbach, Brandon
 To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org
 Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:40 PM
 Subject: RE: [xwiki-users] add elements to menu and edit menu problem
 Which version?  If for Beta1 or above, the panels are easy to modify.
 If older, then it's a different process.
 From: Маловичко Дмитрий [mailto:drdred87@mail.ru]
 Sent: 26 January 2007 11:17
 To: xwiki-users(a)objectweb.org
 Subject: [xwiki-users] add elements to menu and edit menu problem
 Can you help me to understand how can I add new elements to the
 right and left side menus? And how can I edit them?
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