Hi Wouter,
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
  Hi Vincent,
 Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy to use 
 for
  content managers with no coding background, it
will lower the treshold 
 for
  people wanting to use xwiki.
 Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for
 people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability 
 and
  are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends
to get a bit complicated.
 IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated
 allready.
 Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort 
 them,
  and use them to create the guide? 
 yep that's the idea.
  Is there a standard layout for guides like this
allready? 
 No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately:
 
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
 Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft
 section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it
 to the final location (AdminGuide):
 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
  Because then we would create it accordingly.
 Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space:
 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
 Thanks
 -Vincent
  Thanks for the thoughts,
 Wouter
 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> 
 wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> It would be nice to have a guide on 
xwiki.org about this topic of
> stripping the default XE.
>
> Basically you have 2 approaches:
> 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no
> pages)
> 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
>
> Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not.
> Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things 
 than
 > to create new stuff from nothing :)
>
> If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to 
turn
 > them off/make them disappear.
>
> Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you 
 guys
 > could start a guide on 
xwiki.org about how to
remove stuff and stip 
 down
 > xwiki!
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott,
>> I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here.
>>
>> What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I
>> created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more.
>> This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at
> the
>> panel wizard.
>> Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout.
>> You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki
>> (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to 
 change
 >> this, the same goes for the displayed
search results.
>> You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the
> bottom
>> of the page or not, etc.
>>
>> IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control 
 of
 >> what the endusers can see and are allowed
to do.
>>
>> I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to
> let
>> me know.
>>
>> Kind regards and good luck,
>>
>> Wouter
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <serrs(a)theserrs.net> 
wrote:
 >>
>>>
>>> I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki
>>> configuration, at least for end users.  The default xwiki UI is pretty
>>> complex.
>>>
>>> I'd like users to see this:
>>> content (edit, print)
>>> search box
>>> minimal side bar
>>> backlinks
>>> (and not much more)
>>>
>>> Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the
> bare
>>> essentials?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott 
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