17 Dec
2009
17 Dec
'09
11:08 p.m.
I have a few questions related to XWiki's builtin search as well as Lucene search:
1. In Lucene search, what is the query syntax to search for page name with wild card. For
example , if I try '*Page2' (without quotes), there is no hit even on
Sandbox.TestPage2. This is almost a very basic user expectation : if the user only
remembers partial name of a page of interest, it should be possible to locate the page via
the search bar using wildcards. The builtin WebSearch supports this functionality. I
prefer to use Lucene as the default search engine (modified global.vm in skins/colibri)
because of the ability to search in attachments.
2. Is there any syntax to specify match for an attachment name -- either in the builtin or
in Lucene engine? Say for example, search for an attachment '*logo*.png' at any
page in any space. I understand that this can be achieved via scripting, but it would be
great if search box provided this feature.
3. Does either search engine support search for form field values? I am a newbie to XWiki
(coming from Foswiki) and therefore am still learning the concept of associating forms to
pages in XWiki. From an end user perspective, if pages can have forms, there should be a
way to search pages based on value of form field(s).
Thanks,
Milind
18 Dec
18 Dec
9:18 a.m.
Hi there,
On Dec 17, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Milind Kamble wrote:
I have a few questions related to XWiki's builtin
search as well as
Lucene search:
1. In Lucene search, what is the query syntax to search for page
name with wild card. For example , if I try '*Page2' (without
quotes), there is no hit even on Sandbox.TestPage2. This is almost a
very basic user expectation : if the user only remembers partial
name of a page of interest, it should be possible to locate the page
via the search bar using wildcards. The builtin WebSearch supports
this functionality. I prefer to use Lucene as the default search
engine (modified global.vm in skins/colibri) because of the ability
to search in attachments.
See http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplication
which also references this page:
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplicationLuceneSe…
Thanks
-Vincent
2. Is there any syntax to specify match for an
attachment name --
either in the builtin or in Lucene engine? Say for example, search
for an attachment '*logo*.png' at any page in any space. I
understand that this can be achieved via scripting, but it would be
great if search box provided this feature.
3. Does either search engine support search for form field values? I
am a newbie to XWiki (coming from Foswiki) and therefore am still
learning the concept of associating forms to pages in XWiki. From an
end user perspective, if pages can have forms, there should be a way
to search pages based on value of form field(s).
Thanks,
Milind
10:10 a.m.
Hi Milind,
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Product Manager - XWiki SAS
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Twitter: glerouge
http://guillaumelerouge.com/
Hi there,
On Dec 17, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Milind Kamble wrote:
I'd be interested in finding out more about what made you switch from
Foswiki to XWiki. I'd also be happy to know whether there are some features
that you liked in Foswiki but cannot find in XWiki yet.
Thanks in advance for your feedback,
Guillaume
I have a few questions related to XWiki's
builtin search as well as
Lucene search:
1. In Lucene search, what is the query syntax to search for page
name with wild card. For example , if I try '*Page2' (without
quotes), there is no hit even on Sandbox.TestPage2. This is almost a
very basic user expectation : if the user only remembers partial
name of a page of interest, it should be possible to locate the page
via the search bar using wildcards. The builtin WebSearch supports
this functionality. I prefer to use Lucene as the default search
engine (modified global.vm in skins/colibri) because of the ability
to search in attachments.
See http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplication
which also references this page:
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplicationLuceneSe…
Thanks
-Vincent
2. Is there any syntax to specify match for an
attachment name --
either in the builtin or in Lucene engine? Say for example, search
for an attachment '*logo*.png' at any page in any space. I
understand that this can be achieved via scripting, but it would be
great if search box provided this feature.
3. Does either search engine support search for form field values? I
am a newbie to XWiki (coming from Foswiki) and therefore am still
learning the concept of associating forms to pages in XWiki. From an
end user perspective, if pages can have forms, there should be a way
to search pages based on value of form field(s).
Thanks,
Milind
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4 Jan
10:15 p.m.
Wishing all XWiki users and developers a very happy new year.
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From: Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
To: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 3:10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Bunch of questions related to search
Hi Milind,
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Guillaume,
I was attracted by the feature/capabilities advertised for XE. I was supporting a
small user base earlier and TWiki/Foswiki was satisfactory from a performance and
customization stand point. But now I am tasked to deploy a wiki for a much larger user
base (~ 1000-2000 to begin with and likely to grow) and to host documentation/processes
for multiple projects. I was not too confident about Foswiki's scalability -- because
of use of flat directory structure and simple RCS based version control. XWiki's use
of database for backend storage and use of cutting edge web technologies made me believe
it had the capability to scale for our needs. The possibility of virtual wikis and
clustering were especially attractive. The ability to search through attachments (using
Lucene) and the programmabliity offered via Velocity and Groovy makes XWiki much more
powerful than the plugin functionality of Foswiki. Foswiki's template system
doesn't seem to be an elegant
foundation -- it is quite confusing to specify the correct syntax for quote marks. The
support for forms is also inelegant because the form fields are stored as meta fields in
the page content which limits the data types that one can store in forms. I think xwiki
doesn't have that limitation.
To point out the shortcomings of XWiki: the learning curve to deploy and gain admin
knowledge for XWiki seems much steeper than I anticipated. More detailed documentation can
certainly help, but I also understand that this should be a collective effort. Some of the
features from Foswiki that I would earnestly request to be supported in Xwiki are:
1. Provide ability for end users to easily view access controls at page, space and wiki
levels and browse groups. Presently only admingroup users can view access controls and
groups. And the irritating behavior is that bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences gets
redirected to bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences.
2. A vacation planner or vacation view application where users can specify their vacation
or remote-working plans in their individual home pages and the ability to view the status
of any individual or arbitrary group of individuals. This is highly desired by the
managers at my work place. I think this request appears in the list of requested features,
but I haven't seen any timeline when this will be available.
3. Ability to generate an access control report for any page. The corporate IT security
team requires such a report for audit purposes.
I'll let you know more as I go through the learning process :)
Thanks,
Milind
Hi there,
On Dec 17, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Milind Kamble wrote:
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplicationLuceneSe…
I have a few questions related to XWiki's
builtin search as well as
Lucene search:
1. In Lucene search, what is the query syntax to search for page
name with wild card. For example , if I try '*Page2' (without
quotes), there is no hit even on Sandbox.TestPage2. This is almost a
very basic user expectation : if the user only remembers partial
name of a page of interest, it should be possible to locate the page
via the search bar using wildcards. The builtin WebSearch supports
this functionality. I prefer to use Lucene as the default search
engine (modified global.vm in skins/colibri) because of the ability
to search in attachments.
See http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplication
which also references this page:
Thanks
-Vincent
I'd be interested in finding out more about what made you switch from
Foswiki to XWiki. I'd also be happy to know whether there are some features
that you liked in Foswiki but cannot find in XWiki yet.
Thanks in advance for your feedback,
Guillaume
2. Is there any syntax to specify match for an
attachment name --
either in the builtin or in Lucene engine? Say for example, search
for an attachment '*logo*.png' at any page in any space. I
understand that this can be achieved via scripting, but it would be
great if search box provided this feature.
3. Does either search engine support search for form field values? I
am a newbie to XWiki (coming from Foswiki) and therefore am still
learning the concept of associating forms to pages in XWiki. From an
end user perspective, if pages can have forms, there should be a way
to search pages based on value of form field(s).
Thanks,
Milind
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5 Jan
4:19 p.m.
Hi Milind,
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Milind Kamble <mbkads(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplicationLuceneSe…
features
Ok. That's interesting feedback, thanks!
Wishing all XWiki users and developers a very happy
new year.
Thanks!
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Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
To: XWiki Users <users(a)xwiki.org>
Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 3:10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Bunch of questions related to search
Hi Milind,
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Milind Kamble wrote:
>
> > I have a few questions related to XWiki's builtin search as well as
> > Lucene search:
> > 1. In Lucene search, what is the query syntax to search for page
> > name with wild card. For example , if I try '*Page2' (without
> > quotes), there is no hit even on Sandbox.TestPage2. This is almost a
> > very basic user expectation : if the user only remembers partial
> > name of a page of interest, it should be possible to locate the page
> > via the search bar using wildcards. The builtin WebSearch supports
> > this functionality. I prefer to use Lucene as the default search
> > engine (modified global.vm in skins/colibri) because of the ability
> > to search in attachments.
>
> See
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/SearchApplication
which
also references this page:
Thanks
-Vincent
I'd be interested in finding out more about what made you switch from
Foswiki to XWiki. I'd also be happy to know whether there are some 2. Is there any syntax to specify match for an
attachment name --
either in the builtin or in Lucene engine? Say for example, search
for an attachment '*logo*.png' at any page in any space. I
understand that this can be achieved via scripting, but it would be
great if search box provided this feature.
3. Does either search engine support search for form field values? I
am a newbie to XWiki (coming from Foswiki) and therefore am still
learning the concept of associating forms to pages in XWiki. From an
end user perspective, if pages can have forms, there should be a way
to search pages based on value of form field(s).
that you liked in Foswiki but cannot find in
XWiki yet.
Thanks in advance for your feedback,
Guillaume
Guillaume,
I was attracted by the feature/capabilities advertised for XE. I was
supporting a small user base earlier and TWiki/Foswiki was satisfactory from
a performance and customization stand point. But now I am tasked to deploy a
wiki for a much larger user base (~ 1000-2000 to begin with and likely to
grow) and to host documentation/processes for multiple projects. I was not
too confident about Foswiki's scalability -- because of use of flat
directory structure and simple RCS based version control. XWiki's use of
database for backend storage and use of cutting edge web technologies made
me believe it had the capability to scale for our needs. The possibility of
virtual wikis and clustering were especially attractive. The ability to
search through attachments (using Lucene) and the programmabliity offered
via Velocity and Groovy makes XWiki much more powerful than the plugin
functionality of Foswiki. Foswiki's template system doesn't seem to be an
elegant
foundation -- it is quite confusing to specify the correct syntax for
quote marks. The support for forms is also inelegant because the form fields
are stored as meta fields in the page content which limits the data types
that one can store in forms. I think xwiki doesn't have that limitation.
To point out the shortcomings of XWiki: the learning
curve to deploy and
gain admin knowledge for XWiki seems much steeper than I anticipated. More
detailed documentation can certainly help, but I also understand that this
should be a collective effort.
Definitely. We're aware of this and we'll be looking forward to your help
:-)
Some of the features from Foswiki that I would
earnestly request to be
supported in Xwiki are:
1. Provide ability for end users to easily view access controls at page,
space and wiki levels and browse groups. Presently only admingroup users can
view access controls and groups. And the irritating behavior is that
bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences gets redirected to
bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences.
Yes, being able to view / audit rights for a given page / space would be
nice.
2. A vacation planner or vacation view application
where users can specify
their vacation or remote-working plans in their individual home pages and
the ability to view the status of any individual or arbitrary group of
individuals. This is highly desired by the managers at my work place. I
think this request appears in the list of requested features, but I haven't
seen any timeline when this will be available.
There's actually one on our intranet right now but it hasn't been published
on code.xwiki.org yet. I'll see if I have the time to do it in the coming
days - no firm promise though.
3. Ability to generate an access control report for
any page. The corporate
IT security team requires such a report for audit purposes.
Yep, this one is close to 1/ . I think it could be achieved through some
scripting on your end if you really need it.
I'll let you know more as I go through the
learning process :)
Great, thanks!
Guillaume
Thanks,
Milind
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Product Manager - XWiki SAS
Skype: wikibc
Twitter: glerouge
http://guillaumelerouge.com/
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Twitter: glerouge
http://guillaumelerouge.com/
Thanks,
Milind
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