[xwiki-dev] [Proposal] Include Selenium app in the default wiki?

[Vincent Massol]

On Mar 9, 2007, at 3:52 PM, jeremi joslin wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm not for letting selenium by default on the wiki. I would prefer to
> setup a config parameter to add it.
> is it possible to activate selenium just by adding to the url ? 
> selenium=1 ?
> like this it easy to activate fo the current page, and normal user
> don't have to load it.

I don't understand what you mean Jeremi. If Selenium XAR is not  
included in the default wiki then it cannot be activated as it won't  
be there. Of course any user can at any time include it in his wiki  
(this is already available).

-Vincent

> On 3/9/07, Vincent Massol <vincent at massol.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I committed in SVN the automatic inclusion of our Functional Test
>> suite in the default wiki. Sergiu rightly pointed that we need to
>> discuss this before including it as it's not completely end user
>> focused.
>>
>> Here are the reasons I thought it would be good to be included:
>>
>> 1) It's related to end users if we say that this is a feature to
>> verify that XWiki is correctly installed. They can delete it after if
>> they want. I strongly believe tests should extend to users in some
>> manner, especially for an open source project.
>>
>> 2) This would allow users to help us discover problems in a more
>> controlled manner. Indeed if users have this app installed, once they
>> encounter a problem they could record a test suite proving the
>> problem and give it to us. This would 1) increase our test suite and
>> 2) allow us to reproduce the pb, fix it and verify the fix passes the
>> test. In some way this is about transforming a portion of our users
>> into contributors :)
>>
>> Now Sergiu says that this is increasing the size of the default Wiki.
>> Yes this is true. It goes from 320KB to 542KB. Is it worth it?
>>
>> To be honest, I don't know if this will work or not but I was curious
>> to try it out and see what we can come up with.
>>
>> My idea here is really to try lowering the bar for writing functional
>> tests for everyone and for us to get better at controlling if XWiki
>> works or not.
>>
>> We could have another wiki (say "wikidebug" or "wikitest") which is
>> the default wiki + the Selenium app and let people interested use it.
>> But it won't be as effective I think. I find it kind of cool to have
>> our installation verification tool inside the delivered default wiki.
>>
>> Another idea: we could have a button in Selenium.WebHome to
>> completely remove the space if the user doesn't want it for example.
>>
>> Anyway I'm curious to know what everyone thinks about this. I agree
>> with Sergiu that it's not 100% required. At the same I'm curious with
>> the experiment.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> PS: If we decide we don't want it I'll remove it from the build so
>> that it isn't included in the default wiki by default and I'll mark
>> XWIKI-959 as won't fix.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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