[xwiki-devs] Redesign of Download page (was Re: [Proposal] Optional Contact Form in the download page)

Sergiu Dumitriu sergiu at xwiki.com
Sat Mar 5 15:09:06 UTC 2011


On 03/05/2011 03:18 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
> +1, Great ! but...
>
> Should not the feedback form be also accessible without triggering a
> download ?
> I can imagine that you can want to came back to it later, and it will
> trigger the download again, which is not expected.

+1, not everybody that downloads the software wants to give feedback, 
but definitely not everybody that wants to give feedback started by 
downloading it.

>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:53, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
> <valicac at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've implemented the proposed version
>>
>> enterprise
>> http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
>>
>> manager
>> http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
>>
>> watch
>> http://watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
>>
>> xeclipse
>> http://xeclipse.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
>>
>> xoffice
>> http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
>>
>> Please vote on this versions.
>>
>> This variant deprecates xwiki:Main.Download and will need also a change in
>> Panels.Download that will relate to the local Main.Download instead of the
>> global xwiki: link.
>>
>> The feedback form is activated so we will receive the messages, but there
>> is
>> only one general form and the messages are redirected just to one email
>> address. Some developer needs to fix this in order for the companies
>> checkbox to work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 16:05, Vincent Massol<vincent at massol.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Caty,
>>>
>>> That's good to me. I believe it's a good first version that we can tune
>>> later on.
>>>
>>> I'm +1 to implement it like this for now.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> *Design proposal:*
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign
>>>>
>>>> *Mockups:*
>>>> XWiki Enterprise Manager Download Page
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/manager.png
>>>>
>>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 1
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart1.png
>>>>
>>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 2
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart2.png
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty
>>>>
>>>> P.S.* Prototypes* (with incubator style):
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadManager
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise1
>>>>
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:17, Vincent Massol<vincent at massol.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback on my previous mail on this topic. I've
>>> discussed
>>>>> it more with Gregory and Emilie and here's what we'd like to propose
>>> now:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Add a Profesional Services heading on the download which would
>> contain
>>>>> ** Some text explaining about community support and linking to
>>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support (which already
>>> describes
>>>>> community support)
>>>>> ** A livetable containing companies offering professional services for
>>>>> XWiki. The columns would be:
>>>>> *** Logo
>>>>> *** Company name
>>>>> *** Number of active committers
>>>>> *** Link to the correct anchor on the Support page (
>>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support)
>>>>> ** The livetable would only show 3 entries
>>>>> ** The livetable would be sorted by active committers by default
>>>>> ** A text that explains how to add a new company to the list and which
>>>>> would point to the Governance page (
>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance)
>>>>>
>>>>> * We will remove the current XWiki SAS support link since that
>>> information
>>>>> will be moved to the livetable
>>>>>
>>>>> * Rework the download page so that when a download link is clicked, it
>>>>> opens a new page containing the feedback questionnaire while the
>>> download
>>>>> happens
>>>>> ** Note that for this to be technically possible I propose to remove
>> the
>>>>> link to the OW2 mirrors and instead link to the only existing mirror
>>> (OW2
>>>>> seems to have only 1...). If not, we would need some code to compute
>>> which
>>>>> OW2 mirror to use based on the location.
>>>>>
>>>>> * The feedback questionnaire page would contain the following:
>>>>> ** The following questionnaire:
>>>>>
>>>
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/SatisfactionSurveyProducts(let'stunethe questions together)
>>>>> ** The questionnaire would start with a first question asking to which
>>>>> companies it should be sent to. We would list all companies offering
>>>>> professional support (using checkboxes) with a special text for the
>> top
>>> one
>>>>> ("Top contributor") and in parenthesis listing the number of active
>>>>> committers. For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ] XWiki SAS - Top contributor with 15 active committers
>>>>> [ ] Softec - 1 active committer
>>>>>
>>>>> ** A text explaining that it's optional and what the questionnaire
>> will
>>> be
>>>>> used for, i.e. that
>>>>> *** it will be published anonymously on xwiki.org to improve the
>>> product
>>>>> *** it will be sent to the companies for which the user has checked
>> the
>>> box
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We've tried to design this proposal with taking 2 ideas into account:
>>>>> 1) that it's fair and that all companies can have a fair visibility
>>>>> 2) that it's visible which companies contribute the most (to reward
>>> their
>>>>> contributions)
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi devs and everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emilie has proposed the following content to be added to the Download
>>>>> page (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/TextDownload
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea is twofold:
>>>>>> 1) to get feedback about what people think about our software.
>>>>>> 2) some people who download the XWiki software from xwiki.org don't
>>> know
>>>>> that XWiki SAS has a commercial offerings and could be interested by
>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The pros for the community are:
>>>>>> 1) XWiki SAS will publish back the result of the feedback it receives
>>>>> from the download form which will allow us to fine tune and improve
>> the
>>>>> software
>>>>>> 2) XWiki SAS could get more business (from people who want to buy
>>>>> support, dev work, hosting, etc) which will mean accrued budget for
>>> paying
>>>>> developers and resources to work on the XWiki project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note 1: the form would be of course optional
>>>>>> Note 2: in the future I'd like to see a not for profit foundation to
>>>>> handle xwiki.org, the xwiki open source project, donations, etc. When
>>> this
>>>>> happens we could elect from member for the foundation and have the
>>> feedback
>>>>> form sent to that foundation for example, with members of the
>> foundation
>>>>> having access to the data (for example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> -Vincent Massol, acting as both CTO of XWiki SAS and XWiki open
>> source
>>>>> developer


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