[xwiki-devs] Redesign of Download page (was Re: [Proposal] Optional Contact Form in the download page)

Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) valicac at gmail.com
Sat Mar 5 23:02:24 UTC 2011


On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 17:09, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu at xwiki.com> wrote:

> On 03/05/2011 03:18 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
> > +1, Great ! but...
> >
> > Should not the feedback form be also accessible without triggering a
> > download ?
> > I can imagine that you can want to came back to it later, and it will
> > trigger the download again, which is not expected.
>
> +1, not everybody that downloads the software wants to give feedback,
> but definitely not everybody that wants to give feedback started by
> downloading it.
>


If you remove all params - you are left with
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Feedback

Thanks,
Caty


>
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:53, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
> > <valicac at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've implemented the proposed version
> >>
> >> enterprise
> >> http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
> >>
> >> manager
> >> http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
> >>
> >> watch
> >> http://watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
> >>
> >> xeclipse
> >> http://xeclipse.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
> >>
> >> xoffice
> >> http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
> >>
> >> Please vote on this versions.
> >>
> >> This variant deprecates xwiki:Main.Download and will need also a change
> in
> >> Panels.Download that will relate to the local Main.Download instead of
> the
> >> global xwiki: link.
> >>
> >> The feedback form is activated so we will receive the messages, but
> there
> >> is
> >> only one general form and the messages are redirected just to one email
> >> address. Some developer needs to fix this in order for the companies
> >> checkbox to work.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Caty
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 16:05, Vincent Massol<vincent at massol.net>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Caty,
> >>>
> >>> That's good to me. I believe it's a good first version that we can tune
> >>> later on.
> >>>
> >>> I'm +1 to implement it like this for now.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -Vincent
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> *Design proposal:*
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign
> >>>>
> >>>> *Mockups:*
> >>>> XWiki Enterprise Manager Download Page
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/manager.png
> >>>>
> >>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 1
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart1.png
> >>>>
> >>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 2
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart2.png
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Caty
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S.* Prototypes* (with incubator style):
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadManager
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise1
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:17, Vincent Massol<vincent at massol.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your feedback on my previous mail on this topic. I've
> >>> discussed
> >>>>> it more with Gregory and Emilie and here's what we'd like to propose
> >>> now:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Add a Profesional Services heading on the download which would
> >> contain
> >>>>> ** Some text explaining about community support and linking to
> >>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support (which already
> >>> describes
> >>>>> community support)
> >>>>> ** A livetable containing companies offering professional services
> for
> >>>>> XWiki. The columns would be:
> >>>>> *** Logo
> >>>>> *** Company name
> >>>>> *** Number of active committers
> >>>>> *** Link to the correct anchor on the Support page (
> >>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support)
> >>>>> ** The livetable would only show 3 entries
> >>>>> ** The livetable would be sorted by active committers by default
> >>>>> ** A text that explains how to add a new company to the list and
> which
> >>>>> would point to the Governance page (
> >>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * We will remove the current XWiki SAS support link since that
> >>> information
> >>>>> will be moved to the livetable
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Rework the download page so that when a download link is clicked,
> it
> >>>>> opens a new page containing the feedback questionnaire while the
> >>> download
> >>>>> happens
> >>>>> ** Note that for this to be technically possible I propose to remove
> >> the
> >>>>> link to the OW2 mirrors and instead link to the only existing mirror
> >>> (OW2
> >>>>> seems to have only 1...). If not, we would need some code to compute
> >>> which
> >>>>> OW2 mirror to use based on the location.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * The feedback questionnaire page would contain the following:
> >>>>> ** The following questionnaire:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/SatisfactionSurveyProducts(let'stunethequestions together)
> >>>>> ** The questionnaire would start with a first question asking to
> which
> >>>>> companies it should be sent to. We would list all companies offering
> >>>>> professional support (using checkboxes) with a special text for the
> >> top
> >>> one
> >>>>> ("Top contributor") and in parenthesis listing the number of active
> >>>>> committers. For example:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [ ] XWiki SAS - Top contributor with 15 active committers
> >>>>> [ ] Softec - 1 active committer
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ** A text explaining that it's optional and what the questionnaire
> >> will
> >>> be
> >>>>> used for, i.e. that
> >>>>> *** it will be published anonymously on xwiki.org to improve the
> >>> product
> >>>>> *** it will be sent to the companies for which the user has checked
> >> the
> >>> box
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We've tried to design this proposal with taking 2 ideas into account:
> >>>>> 1) that it's fair and that all companies can have a fair visibility
> >>>>> 2) that it's visible which companies contribute the most (to reward
> >>> their
> >>>>> contributions)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> -Vincent
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi devs and everyone,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emilie has proposed the following content to be added to the
> Download
> >>>>> page (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/TextDownload
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The idea is twofold:
> >>>>>> 1) to get feedback about what people think about our software.
> >>>>>> 2) some people who download the XWiki software from xwiki.org don't
> >>> know
> >>>>> that XWiki SAS has a commercial offerings and could be interested by
> >> it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The pros for the community are:
> >>>>>> 1) XWiki SAS will publish back the result of the feedback it
> receives
> >>>>> from the download form which will allow us to fine tune and improve
> >> the
> >>>>> software
> >>>>>> 2) XWiki SAS could get more business (from people who want to buy
> >>>>> support, dev work, hosting, etc) which will mean accrued budget for
> >>> paying
> >>>>> developers and resources to work on the XWiki project
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note 1: the form would be of course optional
> >>>>>> Note 2: in the future I'd like to see a not for profit foundation to
> >>>>> handle xwiki.org, the xwiki open source project, donations, etc.
> When
> >>> this
> >>>>> happens we could elect from member for the foundation and have the
> >>> feedback
> >>>>> form sent to that foundation for example, with members of the
> >> foundation
> >>>>> having access to the data (for example).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> -Vincent Massol, acting as both CTO of XWiki SAS and XWiki open
> >> source
> >>>>> developer
>
>
> --
> Sergiu Dumitriu
> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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