[xwiki-users] Converting from XWiki to TWiki

Thu Aug 31 16:29:21 CEST 2006

You can try the WYSIWYG Editor by creating a wiki on http://www.xwiki.com
Then go to the preferences and in "Editor" switch to WYSIWYG

Ludovic

Tchize a écrit :
> Let me add, we use xwiki here since a few month. We choose it amongst
> other for various reasons
> 1) Support for mulitlingual pages, as we work in a bilingual
> environment, it was mandatory for us
> 2) Ability to export to PDF, as is, our collaboraters use xwiki to write
> document that can be later printed in a big book
> 3) It's written in java, that mean it can easily integrate with our
> other servlet based application
> 4) It was possible to customize the login system, so xwiki could connect
> to our already existing list of users (would have been very difficult
> with something else that java)
>
> Though xwiki is not a polished wiki, it works well for our purpose, and
> is better than other wikis we tried. Only bad point imho, is the fact it
> absolutely does not work on oracle.
>
>
> Btw, where is this *marvelous* tinyMCE based editor, i want to see it at
> work ^^ ^^, this will be greatly appreciated by our standard users :)
>
> Ludovic Dubost a écrit :
>   
>> Paul,
>>
>> I am myself dismayed about your attitude and your lack of respect of
>> Open Source developers.
>> You might be one of these people that like Open Source much more
>> because it's free and because you can dig into other's people
>> knowledge and creations at will than because you can participate and
>> help enhance and improve it.
>>
>> I'm really sorry that you lack of implication (although you have been
>> following the users and developers list since you have got 7 of your
>> questions answered without having help answer to any of the other's
>> users questions) have made you not notive that despite what you think
>> XWiki has made a lot of progress.
>>
>> You would have seen that there is an XWiki 0.9.1252 which has many
>> improved features like:
>>  - TinyMCE based WYSIWYG editor compatible with the XWiki syntax done
>> by a Google Summer of Code student
>>  - Backlinks support
>>  - Improved API with write-API and many new functions helping write
>> web sites
>>  - A charting Wizard done by a Google Summer of Code student
>>  - Multi Wiki support like no other wiki
>>  - An XPath based Query language done by a Google Summe of Code student
>>  - A cluster mode contributed by TripAdvisor.com
>>
>> You would also have seen that a Google Summer of Code is in the works
>> with:
>>
>> - Support JCR for storage with a migration path from hibernate
>> database storage
>> - A AJAX form editor
>> - A new XWiki 1.0 skin implementing the Usability recommandations
>> worked on last year
>> - A P2P Replication protocol allowing to work Offline and run XWiki on
>> multiple servers
>>
>> It's sad that you haven't seen that we are trying hard to build a long
>> lasting Open Source Wiki able to tackle tomorrow's Wiki challenges.
>> And this not only takes code, documentation, but also the ability to
>> invest steadily in XWiki. I've personnally spent 2 years without any
>> salary working on XWiki as I created my own company. Thanks to users
>> and companies that better understand Open Source and our approach than
>> you do, we now have been able to hire close to 10 people to work on
>> XWiki and on projects based on XWiki. Close to 40 companies have
>> trusted our services to ask us to help them build solutions on top of
>> XWiki. Hundreds of companies are using XWiki for free. XWiki has been
>> selected for France State funded research project on Collaboration on
>> P2P and Mobility environements.
>>
>> Also it's funny that I've received the same day as your email
>> congratulations and credits from  the Sibelius-Academy in Finland
>> which has been using XWiki for the Music History Web  Site
>> (http://muhi.siba.fi/ -> it's in Finnish). Apparently they have been
>> able to tweak the XWiki look and feel better than you did.
>>
>> I'm mainly sorry for you that you don't realize that Open Source
>> development means tons of hours of hard work shared with a community
>> which of course is free to use it or to use something else. But I tend
>> to believe that the minimum that users of Open Source software should
>> have is respect for developers sharing their work with a community. I
>> just hope that you will learn this while joining the TWiki community
>> which I have a lot of respect for as I've been using and contributing
>> to TWiki for 3 years before writing XWiki.
>>
>> We'll take the positive out of your nasty email, which I'm sure is due
>> to frustration at not finding what you needed from XWiki (a free lunch
>> ?). We'll try to learn from it to improve our documentation, developer
>> guides (anybody wanting to help ?), our code quality and architecture.
>>
>> I realize that this email might sound a little aggressive towards you,
>> but sometimes it's good to set things straight.
>>
>> Good luck for you in the future. I just hope you'll be a better user
>> and contributor of TWiki.
>>
>> Ludovic
>>
>> Paul Dlug a écrit :
>>     
>>> We just completed a conversion from XWiki to TWiki because of the
>>> numerous limitations of XWiki (really awful to understand permissions
>>> system, slow pace of development, lack of plugins, horrid look and
>>> feel, etc.). We initially tried to convert the syntax to TWiki using
>>> perl with Parse::RecDescent. Since the grammar is rather unstructured
>>> and regex/exception based this isn't an easy thing to do. We were
>>> successfully in hacking up a version of XWiki/Radeox that outputs the
>>> XWIki syntax as TWiki syntax. Since this uses the native structures
>>> inside the original java code the conversion is much cleaner.
>>>
>>> If anyone else is migrating from XWiki to TWiki let me know if you'd
>>> like the code to batch convert the whole wiki at once. I'm happy to
>>> save others the pain of doing this themselves.
>>>
>>> As an aside, I am dismayed at the slow progress of XWiki in the time
>>> we have been using it (over a year and a half). I was also quite
>>> appalled when I started digging into the code to this, it's messy,
>>> undocumented, and rife with duplicate logic.
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