[xwiki-users] RE: Xwiki.com API stability and Class/Object model

[Sergiu Dumitriu]

Well said!

You can ask the developers for assistance whenever you have difficulties
understanding something.

Sergiu

On 4/5/07, Oova <ping.scan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I must be another breed, I barely follow you, 'these' users and 'those'
> users, automatically generated comment pages for users to fill it out,
> etc..... I am just lost or too old fashioned.
> My humble opinion is as follows. In house building as in software, if you
> want to enable somebody else to build an application (house) you give them
> a
> description, what kind of particular applications (houses) you especially
> are qualified to help building FASTER and BETTER than usual (Benefits
> overview and tools to gain those benefits). You also write, what kind of
> skill set might be useful to take advantage of the tools your provide.
> Then
> you provide the architecture (blueprint, ....) and explain what kind of
> interfaces (for walls, windows, plumbing, roofing,...) you created to
> enable
> others to build. To expedite the break-in you give some sample
> applications
> illustrating how the architecture, interfaces and tools helped gain the
> benefits for some use cases. And I am sorry, no offense, you do not ask
> the
> engineer who designed the software kit/ housing builder kit do document
> it,
> otherwise it becomes a kit from highly skilled engineers for other highly
> skilled engineers written in a highly specialized technise language, which
> the target audience might not speak. You normally ask a guinea pig out of
> the targeted audience to try to document, what it understands and let it
> build at least one application (house) using the tools provided. And you
> nurture the guinea pig with enough food, encouragement and help, so the
> snowball effect making the whole target audience aware of your great stuff
> can start and you as the engineer can go back cranking out the next great
> SW
> and tool for even better applications and houses. Making sense? Any
> agreement?
> I am a guinea pig, I am eager to use Xwiki, because for some reason, I
> think
> XWiki is a great concept (don't let me go into the 'Crossing the chasm
> modeling, or the 4 steps of the epiphany', both great models of how to
> establish innovation in the market place successfully and go beyond the
> innovator's initial excitement). But you need to let the targeted audience
> pick-up the momentum.
>
> Enough Philosophy, if there is any agreement on what I said before, let
> me,
> Guillaume and other 'users' spread the word in a lower level technise. To
> enable us we need to understand
> - targeted user (groups)
> - architecture
> - concept of object model and API
> - guts (and not only nice webpages) of successful applications of the
> XWiki
> (or is the XWikis main purpose to create nice looking webpages? I did not
> think so)
>
> Uwe
>
>
> THOMAS, BRIAN M (ATTSI) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I wish this were true... I don't think a second that it'll
> >> work though as:
> >> 1) users will say that they cannot document if they don't
> >> know what it does
> >> 2) once users know what it does, they usually go away
> >> 3) users don't like to document anymore than developers like it
> >>
> >> :)
> >
> > Your points are generally true, but when you talk of "users" you're not
> > necessarily talking of these users.  I'm talking about people like me
> > who would have loved it if someone had just told them this or that
> > little tidbit of information, and gladly contribute it, especially when
> > it's in the context of the document
> >
> >> But I like the idea...  and would be game to try it... if
> >> someone else implements it... (all my time is currently used
> >> for the 1.0
> >> release)
> >>
> >
> > The only reason I haven't already made a start of it is that I haven't
> > found an HTML DOM parser.  Is there one in the myriad of libraries that
> > come with XWiki?
> >
> >
>


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