[xwiki-devs] [Reminder] Bug Fixing Day #8 this Thursday 6th of December
Just a reminder. See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay... Thanks -Vincent
Hi, The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012 Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13). The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month). Thanks, Caty On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Congratulations to the core team ! At this rhythm, we won't be overwhelmed by new issue and we won't lose grip over created vs. resolved. Regards, Sorin B. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]
wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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For practical reasons, I suggest that the next Bug Fixing Day be on the 10th of January (delayed by one week) so that we get a good amount of participation from the devs and community. WDYT? Thanks, Eduard On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Sorin Burjan <[email protected]> wrote:
Congratulations to the core team !
At this rhythm, we won't be overwhelmed by new issue and we won't lose grip over created vs. resolved.
Regards, Sorin B.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]
wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On 12/10/2012 08:21 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
For practical reasons, I suggest that the next Bug Fixing Day be on the 10th of January (delayed by one week) so that we get a good amount of participation from the devs and community.
+1. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
For practical reasons, I suggest that the next Bug Fixing Day be on the 10th of January (delayed by one week) so that we get a good amount of participation from the devs and community.
WDYT?
+1 Thanks, Marius
Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Sorin Burjan <[email protected]> wrote:
Congratulations to the core team !
At this rhythm, we won't be overwhelmed by new issue and we won't lose grip over created vs. resolved.
Regards, Sorin B.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]
wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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Hi devs, Since we did not get enough votes/follow-ups, and the 4.x releases take up most of our time, we`re rescheduling this BFD until after 4.5 has been released. Thanks, Eduard On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
For practical reasons, I suggest that the next Bug Fixing Day be on the 10th of January (delayed by one week) so that we get a good amount of participation from the devs and community.
WDYT?
+1
Thanks, Marius
Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Sorin Burjan <[email protected]>
wrote:
Congratulations to the core team !
At this rhythm, we won't be overwhelmed by new issue and we won't lose
grip
over created vs. resolved.
Regards, Sorin B.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]
wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated. We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though…. I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent
+1. Thanks, Eduard On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent
devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 12/07/2012 07:56 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change. Anyway, I'll do my best no matter the frequency. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/07/2012 07:56 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change.
Yes I know. We need to find the good frequency so that devs don't loose interest and participation is high enough. But ATM some devs could not participate because they had something planned for the BFD day #8 and if we have more maybe overall we'll have more participation? I've racked my brain and I don't have a better idea for being in the green than BFDs at the moment… Ideas welcome… Do others think that 2 a month is too much? IMO we could try and see how it goes for a few times and then decide. Thanks -Vincent
Anyway, I'll do my best no matter the frequency. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
Le 7 déc. 2012 à 08:09, Vincent Massol a écrit :
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change.
Yes I know. We need to find the good frequency so that devs don't loose interest and participation is high enough. But ATM some devs could not participate because they had something planned for the BFD day #8 and if we have more maybe overall we'll have more participation?
I've racked my brain and I don't have a better idea for being in the green than BFDs at the moment…
Ideas welcome… Do others think that 2 a month is too much? IMO we could try and see how it goes for a few times and then decide.
I could never participate but I think once a month is far enough! I think clarity and visibility is what's needed to attract more people. Having read with distraction the announces, I have not been able to grasp what is the rythm pattern and always get caught as feeling impossible when I see the announces (so maybe announcing earlier helps?). Paul
On Dec 7, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Paul Libbrecht <[email protected]> wrote:
Le 7 déc. 2012 à 08:09, Vincent Massol a écrit :
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change.
Yes I know. We need to find the good frequency so that devs don't loose interest and participation is high enough. But ATM some devs could not participate because they had something planned for the BFD day #8 and if we have more maybe overall we'll have more participation?
I've racked my brain and I don't have a better idea for being in the green than BFDs at the moment…
Ideas welcome… Do others think that 2 a month is too much? IMO we could try and see how it goes for a few times and then decide.
I could never participate but I think once a month is far enough!
Far enough for what? Apparently it's not far enough since the bugs are winning...
I think clarity and visibility is what's needed to attract more people.
The point is not so much to attract people than to federate all existing devs on that day to make some dent in the bug count together. Of course the more the merrier :)
Having read with distraction the announces, I have not been able to grasp what is the rythm pattern and always get caught as feeling impossible when I see the announces (so maybe announcing earlier helps?).
Our BFD is at fixed date every month… It's the first Thursday of every month. In this case it's been reminded several times too, as were all BFDs. See Thanks -Vincent
Hi, On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/07/2012 07:56 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <
[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first
Thursday
of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change.
Yes I know. We need to find the good frequency so that devs don't loose interest and participation is high enough. But ATM some devs could not participate because they had something planned for the BFD day #8 and if we have more maybe overall we'll have more participation?
I've racked my brain and I don't have a better idea for being in the green than BFDs at the moment…
Well, another option is that we decide to systematically close bugs (not new features/improvements/etc) that are older than say... 2-3 years. I have noticed in this latest BFD that there are a lot of bugs that are no longer reproducible and most of them are for the old versions that don`t even behave the same way and that most of the stuff got rewritten in the process. If we like, we could try to improve that and (maybe reduce the window to 1-2 years but) only close issues that have no comments/reactions to them. Alternatively, there's the thing that Fedora does (and probably others) where they systematically close bugs that are older than 2 versions (basically older than the stable version that they support). I guess there could be other ways that work for getting rid of old and invalid bugs that are polluting jira. Of course, this does not address active and valid bugs (since they need to actually be fixed), but I think it would be a step towards the right direction. Thanks, Eduard
Ideas welcome… Do others think that 2 a month is too much? IMO we could try and see how it goes for a few times and then decide.
Thanks -Vincent
Anyway, I'll do my best no matter the frequency. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
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On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/07/2012 07:56 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <
[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first
Thursday
of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
I'd be a full +1 for this, except that I find that when something happens too often, people tend to lose interest and the participation will decrease. In the end, the marginal number of bugs will stay the same, it's just the frequency that will change.
Yes I know. We need to find the good frequency so that devs don't loose interest and participation is high enough. But ATM some devs could not participate because they had something planned for the BFD day #8 and if we have more maybe overall we'll have more participation?
I've racked my brain and I don't have a better idea for being in the green than BFDs at the moment…
Well, another option is that we decide to systematically close bugs (not new features/improvements/etc) that are older than say... 2-3 years. I have noticed in this latest BFD that there are a lot of bugs that are no longer reproducible and most of them are for the old versions that don`t even behave the same way and that most of the stuff got rewritten in the process. If we like, we could try to improve that and (maybe reduce the window to 1-2 years but) only close issues that have no comments/reactions to them.
Alternatively, there's the thing that Fedora does (and probably others) where they systematically close bugs that are older than 2 versions (basically older than the stable version that they support).
I guess there could be other ways that work for getting rid of old and invalid bugs that are polluting jira.
Of course, this does not address active and valid bugs (since they need to actually be fixed), but I think it would be a step towards the right direction.
So you suggest to close all bugs that are older than 2 years systematically or do you suggest to only close not valid bugs? If the later how do you know it's still valid? I personally don't like too much closing valid bugs. I agree about closing bugs that cannot be reproduced (which is what we do) but I'm not sure I like too much closing valid bugs even if they're old. However I think it's a good strategy that during the BFD we start our closing bug hunt by looking at oldest bugs first (this is what I've done several times personally). The only issue is that we run the risk of looking at the same bugs and thus stepping on the toes of the others ;) Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Eduard
Ideas welcome… Do others think that 2 a month is too much? IMO we could try and see how it goes for a few times and then decide.
Thanks -Vincent
Anyway, I'll do my best no matter the frequency. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
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+1 Thanks, Marius On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:47 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The results for the #bugfixingday #8 held on 6 November 2012 are at http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BugFixingDay+December+2012
Great job everyone for closing 43 issues (and fixing 13).
The next #bugfixingday is planned for 3rd of January 2013 (first Thursday of every month).
Yes many thanks to those who participated.
We still have 45 bugs to be back in the green though….
I have the feeling that we should intensify a bit the BFD and I think it would be good to be doing this once every 2 weeks so that we're in the green as a rule instead of the opposite being the norm…. WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Just a reminder.
See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDay...
Thanks -Vincent
devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
participants (7)
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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) -
Eduard Moraru -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Paul Libbrecht -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Sorin Burjan -
Vincent Massol