Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
----- "Fabio Mancinelli" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/02/2010 11:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order to show the actual message.
If we gonna have in the future something like this
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposal...
where we can put also the status in, then in order to see the status message you could just hover the name of the user and you are not gonna have to click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand / Collapse All" option for people that have a certain preference in displaying.
IMHO, I think that the information and functionality of the "Changed status" toggle adds unneeded complexity: when the user sees the avatar
icon in the activity stream she already knows that a "status has changed", this information is already conveyed by the fact that an entry of that type exists! Moreover a status update will contain, il 90% of
the cases, a single message so 90% of the "Changed status" expansion will contain only 1 item.
For documents is different because changes can be a lot so the "4 changes by 3 contributors" conveys additional information.
What could be done to solve the "consistency" issue is to always display the first item and hide the others in the collapsed list.
* So for single status updates you will have the status update directly displayed.
+1 And it would not shock me either if the style differs a little from the document updates : no icon but directly the user picture, a bit bigger than icons. Jerome.
* For multiple status updates by the same user you will have the last
one + a "3 more..." hidden behind the toggle
* For document updates with a single change you will just have the change that has been done
* For documents with multiple changes you will have just the latest change + "X more changes by Y contributors" toggle with the rest.
This would also solve the problem of having an activity stream filtered only by "status updates" where the user has to click every time on "expand all" in order to actually have the information which should be
available (and expected) by default.
WDYT?
-Fabio _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 09/02/2010 04:06 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
----- "Fabio Mancinelli"<[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/02/2010 11:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order to show the actual message.
If we gonna have in the future something like this
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposal...
where we can put also the status in, then in order to see the status message you could just hover the name of the user and you are not gonna have to click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand / Collapse All" option for people that have a certain preference in displaying.
IMHO, I think that the information and functionality of the "Changed status" toggle adds unneeded complexity: when the user sees the avatar
icon in the activity stream she already knows that a "status has changed", this information is already conveyed by the fact that an entry of that type exists! Moreover a status update will contain, il 90% of
the cases, a single message so 90% of the "Changed status" expansion will contain only 1 item.
For documents is different because changes can be a lot so the "4 changes by 3 contributors" conveys additional information.
What could be done to solve the "consistency" issue is to always display the first item and hide the others in the collapsed list.
* So for single status updates you will have the status update directly displayed.
+1
And it would not shock me either if the style differs a little from the document updates : no icon but directly the user picture, a bit bigger than icons.
+1 for bigger avatar size. Thanks, Jerome
Jerome.
* For multiple status updates by the same user you will have the last
one + a "3 more..." hidden behind the toggle
* For document updates with a single change you will just have the change that has been done
* For documents with multiple changes you will have just the latest change + "X more changes by Y contributors" toggle with the rest.
This would also solve the problem of having an activity stream filtered only by "status updates" where the user has to click every time on "expand all" in order to actually have the information which should be
available (and expected) by default.
WDYT?
-Fabio _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:29, Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
On 09/02/2010 04:06 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
----- "Fabio Mancinelli"<[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/02/2010 11:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order to show the actual message.
If we gonna have in the future something like this
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposal...
where we can put also the status in, then in order to see the status message you could just hover the name of the user and you are not gonna have to click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand / Collapse All" option for people that have a certain preference in displaying.
IMHO, I think that the information and functionality of the "Changed status" toggle adds unneeded complexity: when the user sees the avatar
icon in the activity stream she already knows that a "status has changed", this information is already conveyed by the fact that an entry of that type exists! Moreover a status update will contain, il 90% of
the cases, a single message so 90% of the "Changed status" expansion will contain only 1 item.
For documents is different because changes can be a lot so the "4 changes by 3 contributors" conveys additional information.
What could be done to solve the "consistency" issue is to always display the first item and hide the others in the collapsed list.
* So for single status updates you will have the status update directly displayed.
+1
And it would not shock me either if the style differs a little from the document updates : no icon but directly the user picture, a bit bigger than icons.
+1 for bigger avatar size.
Accordingly to http://markmail.org/thread/c67dra642nbm5h3r they should be: "Primary usage of avatars should have a 50x50px image, while secondary/lower importance usage should have 30x30px image. " Now it's up to us to determine which is the main/secondary elements. Var 1: (current) Changes are main elements and avatars are just descriptive and supporting the change; Var 2: User / Application / (Page) are main elements so: meeting manager icon + marta should be 50px, the rest like they are (30px); Var 3: Everything that is not expanded are main elements, so 50px, and the expanded list will contain 30px icons. I like it the way they are :) Var 1, but we can vote. Thanks, Caty
Thanks, Jerome
Jerome.
* For multiple status updates by the same user you will have the last
one + a "3 more..." hidden behind the toggle
* For document updates with a single change you will just have the change that has been done
* For documents with multiple changes you will have just the latest change + "X more changes by Y contributors" toggle with the rest.
This would also solve the problem of having an activity stream filtered only by "status updates" where the user has to click every time on "expand all" in order to actually have the information which should be
available (and expected) by default.
WDYT?
-Fabio _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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Marius Dumitru Florea