[xwiki-devs] [vote] Change watch from toplevel project to extension
Hi devs, today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org. I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it. Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki. I'm +1 for all these. WYDT? Thanks, Anca
+1, Note: this is in line with this proposal http://markmail.org/message/k6hb7v63igrbtxiy JV. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Hi all, On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean <[email protected]>wrote:
+1,
Note: this is in line with this proposal http://markmail.org/message/k6hb7v63igrbtxiy
I'm -0.5 if we do just that just for XWiki Watch and keep the status quo for other products (namely manager - maybe xeclipse too). If we look at the original proposal from march, manager is in the same boat. And looking at facts, it is also on the backburner (no roadmap, not tested). I'm OK if we implement the global strategy of moving those two top level projects to extensions. Jerome.
JV.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On 12/21/2010 10:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Hi all,
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean <[email protected]>wrote:
+1,
Note: this is in line with this proposal http://markmail.org/message/k6hb7v63igrbtxiy
It's actually a duplicate, thanks for pointing to this thread. I will consider it voted, as the other mail shows, and implement it as soon as I find the time.
I'm -0.5 if we do just that just for XWiki Watch and keep the status quo for other products (namely manager - maybe xeclipse too).
Well here's how I see it: someone has to do it, and it has to start with something. This mail was just to make sure that if I do this for watch, we all agree this is what we want to do (because I overlooked the other mail, where we had actually agreed on this). In this context, -0.5 is a little strange because it sortof blocks anything to happen unless it happens for everything. Shouldn't it be good already that we do this for watch? Is it really an "all or nothing", given the fact that the strategy was already applied for workspaces and not for these other projects? Thanks, Anca
If we look at the original proposal from march, manager is in the same boat. And looking at facts, it is also on the backburner (no roadmap, not tested).
I'm OK if we implement the global strategy of moving those two top level projects to extensions.
Jerome.
JV.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Anca Luca<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/21/2010 10:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Hi all,
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean <[email protected]>wrote:
+1,
Note: this is in line with this proposal http://markmail.org/message/k6hb7v63igrbtxiy
It's actually a duplicate, thanks for pointing to this thread. I will consider it voted, as the other mail shows, and implement it as soon as I find the time.
I'm -0.5 if we do just that just for XWiki Watch and keep the status quo
for
other products (namely manager - maybe xeclipse too).
Well here's how I see it: someone has to do it, and it has to start with something. This mail was just to make sure that if I do this for watch, we all agree this is what we want to do (because I overlooked the other mail, where we had actually agreed on this). In this context, -0.5 is a little strange because it sortof blocks anything to happen unless it happens for everything. Shouldn't it be good already that we do this for watch? Is it really an "all or nothing", given the fact that the strategy was already applied for workspaces and not for these other projects?
No, it's not all or nothing. I'm not talking about the rest of the initial proposal from march, just about the move of top level projects. What I don't want to see is that we make the move for Watch now and that 6 months from now XEM is still in between both strategies (products vs. extensions). We only need to agree on that and for me it's OK. I'm even OK to help making the move for manager if needed. Jerome.
Thanks, Anca
If we look at the original proposal from march, manager is in the same
boat.
And looking at facts, it is also on the backburner (no roadmap, not tested).
I'm OK if we implement the global strategy of moving those two top level projects to extensions.
Jerome.
JV.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Anca Luca<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and
listed
on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:23, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/21/2010 10:25 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Hi all,
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean <[email protected]>wrote:
+1,
Note: this is in line with this proposal http://markmail.org/message/k6hb7v63igrbtxiy
It's actually a duplicate, thanks for pointing to this thread. I will consider it voted, as the other mail shows, and implement it as soon as I find the time.
I'm -0.5 if we do just that just for XWiki Watch and keep the status quo
for
other products (namely manager - maybe xeclipse too).
Well here's how I see it: someone has to do it, and it has to start with something. This mail was just to make sure that if I do this for watch, we all agree this is what we want to do (because I overlooked the other mail, where we had actually agreed on this). In this context, -0.5 is a little strange because it sortof blocks anything to happen unless it happens for everything. Shouldn't it be good already that we do this for watch? Is it really an "all or nothing", given the fact that the strategy was already applied for workspaces and not for these other projects?
No, it's not all or nothing. I'm not talking about the rest of the initial proposal from march, just about the move of top level projects.
What I don't want to see is that we make the move for Watch now and that 6 months from now XEM is still in between both strategies (products vs. extensions).
We only need to agree on that and for me it's OK. I'm even OK to help making the move for manager if needed.
Note that there is almost nothing to do for manager, it's already plugin/application based on XE and manager.xwiki.org provide documentation on how to configure XE as a wiki farm. IMO 3.0 is a good occasion to stop release XEM distribution packages, same for watch.
Jerome.
Thanks, Anca
If we look at the original proposal from march, manager is in the same
boat.
And looking at facts, it is also on the backburner (no roadmap, not tested).
I'm OK if we implement the global strategy of moving those two top level projects to extensions.
Jerome.
JV.
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Anca Luca<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and
listed
on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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+1 Le 20 déc. 2010 19:04, "Anca Luca" <[email protected]> a écrit :
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
+1 Gregory GUENEAU +33 6 07 01 70 65 [email protected] -from my iPad- On 20 déc. 2010, at 19:03, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
+1 Thanks, Marius On 12/20/2010 08:03 PM, Anca Luca wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
WYDT?
Thanks, Anca _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 12/20/2010 07:03 PM, Anca Luca wrote:
Hi devs,
today XWiki Watch is a top level project, toplevel in the svn and listed on the main page of xwiki.org.
I propose we downgrade it to extension status and move its code appropriately, somewhere in the plugins and applications. Along with this, the standalone distribution (and installers) would also be removed. The reason for this is that it makes more sense as an extension than a toplevel project (it's an extra feature that you can add to XWiki by installing an application and deploying a couple of jars), and also because it has been on the backburner lately, and there is no roadmap to make a fully featured toplevel product of it.
Also, according to this vote http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/scrwsfqfm6b5h5zf I would like to release something from the current trunk (1.1M2 probably), compatible with a latest XWiki.
I'm +1 for all these.
+0. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
participants (7)
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Anca Luca -
Gregory GUENEAU -
Jean-Vincent Drean -
Jerome Velociter -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Thomas Mortagne