[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hi everyone, I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin The 4 proposal are numbered as following: A. A simple button B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it C. A button and a modal to confirm the action D. A generic bulk action on the livetable Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Hi Simon,
On 29 Oct 2018, at 14:59, Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it C. A button and a modal to confirm the action
+1
D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 Note that for D you may not need to implement bulk actions but just the ability to have some global action. Thanks -Vincent
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
I would start with C. We can do D later. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it C. A button and a modal to confirm the action D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent. Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there:
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Some examples only with the ALL Bulk action in the livetable: * AWM: "Delete all entries" action could be finally placed inside the livetable * Export all pages: could be done for the entire space (backup) * Delete all the children of a particular page * Download in a zip file with all the attachments of a particular page * Upgrade all extensions in a particular upgrade There are fewer cases for ALL, but in theory for any "Action" provided, an "[Action] All" is valid. The bulk actions goes hand in hand also with having individual checkboxes per line. So the user would select some entries and than apply the "[Action] All". This would be useful when: * Deleting/Restoring only some pages / children from a wiki / space; * Mass rollback/delete utility (for pages - as above; or even for spam users) * Copy/Move/Rename for pages/attachments from one page/wiki to another * Adding/Removing multiple users to a particular group So the bulk actions can be applied to pages, attachments, users, history, extensions, etc.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
+1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there:
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue. Simon On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there:
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it
-0 as it feels a bit weird.
C. A button and a modal to confirm the action
+1
D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there:
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
The 4 proposal are numbered as following:
A. A simple button
-1
B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it
-0 as it feels a bit weird.
C. A button and a modal to confirm the action
+1
D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks.
Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
> > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > A. A simple button -1 > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
> > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > [email protected] > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application. Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case because of "consistency". Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> a écrit :
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]
wrote:
> Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >> recycle bin. >> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >> the users. >> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>> >> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >> >> A. A simple button > -1 >> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. >> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 >> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
>> >> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >> >> Simon >> -- >> Simon Urli >> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> [email protected] >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:35 PM Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png
The button you are referencing is not floating in the middle of the page or after a 10 items livetable. Its position is inside a clear toolbar.
I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application.
Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case because of "consistency".
Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> a écrit :
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Simon, >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >>> recycle bin. >>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>> the users. >>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>> >>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>> >>> A. A simple button >> -1 >>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >> +1 >>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >> > > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + > C. > If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
> > Thanks, > Caty > > >> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>> >>> Simon >>> -- >>> Simon Urli >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> [email protected] >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >> >> Thanks, >> Adel >>
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Clearly, the way it looks like could be improved, but it does not dismiss the principle. Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 14:00, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:35 PM Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png
The button you are referencing is not floating in the middle of the page or after a 10 items livetable. Its position is inside a clear toolbar.
I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application.
Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case because of "consistency".
Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> a écrit :
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> Hello Simon, >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >>>> recycle bin. >>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>>> the users. >>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>> > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin >>>> >>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>> >>>> A. A simple button >>> -1 >>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>> +1 >>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>> >> >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > D. + >> C. >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >> since this needs is recurrent. > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> -- >>>> Simon Urli >>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>> [email protected] >>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adel >>> >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Hi,
On 31 Oct 2018, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality.
AFAIK, there’s definitely no time to implement D in XWiki 10.10 and it’s way better to have C than not do anything so I’m still in favor of C for 10.10. Now if we just agree that we prefer an icon/button inside the LT filter zone in the Actions column, then it’s also fine with me. Thanks -Vincent
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >> recycle bin. >> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >> the users. >> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>> >> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >> >> A. A simple button > -1 >> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. >> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 >> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
>> >> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >> >> Simon >> -- >> Simon Urli >> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> [email protected] >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) So I don't see the problem with option C. Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]
wrote:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
> > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > A. A simple button -1 > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
+1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
> > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > [email protected] > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Thanks, Adel
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Hi all, I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C : https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa... Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. Simon On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <[email protected]
wrote:
> Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >> recycle bin. >> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >> the users. >> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>> >> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >> >> A. A simple button > -1 >> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. >> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 >> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >
+1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
Thanks, Caty
> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to
do.
>> >> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >> >> Simon >> -- >> Simon Urli >> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> [email protected] >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons. Thanks, Marius On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah <
wrote: > >> Hello Simon, >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in
the
>>> recycle bin. >>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>> the users. >>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>> >>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>> >>> A. A simple button >> -1 >>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >> +1 >>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >> > > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + > C. > If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > since this needs is recurrent.
It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action.
> > Thanks, > Caty > > >> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>> >>> Simon >>> -- >>> Simon Urli >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> [email protected] >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >> >> Thanks, >> Adel >>
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
What's the difference between C2 and D? For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version. Thanks, Caty On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons.
Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live
table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote:
+1 for C.
D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action.
Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah <[email protected]>
a
écrit :
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected]
> wrote: >> >>> Hello Simon, >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]
> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >>>> recycle bin. >>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>>> the users. >>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>> >
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>>> >>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>> >>>> A. A simple button >>> -1 >>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>> +1 >>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>> >> >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > D. + >> C. >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >> since this needs is recurrent. > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> -- >>>> Simon Urli >>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>> [email protected] >>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adel >>> >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
What's the difference between C2 and D?
D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none. C is about all or none, no custom selection.
For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version.
Thanks, Caty
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons.
Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live
table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue
discuss
about D in the dedicated issue.
Simon
On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > +1 for C. > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < [email protected]> a > écrit : > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected]
>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Simon, >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < [email protected]
>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >>>>> recycle bin. >>>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>>>> the users. >>>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>>> >>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>>>> >>>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>>> >>>>> A. A simple button >>>> -1 >>>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>>> +1 >>>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>>> >>> >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between >> D. + >>> C. >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >>> since this needs is recurrent. >> >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caty >>> >>> >>>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Urli >>>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adel >>>> >> > >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we don't have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT? On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
What's the difference between C2 and D?
D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none.
C is about all or none, no custom selection.
For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version.
Thanks, Caty
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons.
Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything
and
will
look horrible.
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]
wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > thanks for your answers. > I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue
discuss
> about D in the dedicated issue. > > Simon > > On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: >> +1 for C. >> >> D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like >> "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. >> >> Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < [email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected] > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < [email protected]
>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >>>>>> recycle bin. >>>>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for >>>>>> the users. >>>>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>>>> >>> >
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>>>>> >>>>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>>>> >>>>>> A. A simple button >>>>> -1 >>>>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>>>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>>>> +1 >>>>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a >>>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between >>> D. + >>>> C. >>>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >>>> since this needs is recurrent. >>> >>> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >>> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >>> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> >>>>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to > do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Simon Urli >>>>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Adel >>>>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > [email protected] > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
On 02/11/2018 12:32, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we don't have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT?
I'm ok with preserving the position of the button. Now regarding the kind of button we want to display, I'm a bit afraid that using the same delete icon might be confusing for the user, and that he'd need to click on it to understand it's a "delete all". I also want to have consistency but we need to make obvious the role of this button. <off topic> Side remark about the icon used in this livetable: it seems that for the icons actions we're not using the Icon Theme Application (https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Icon%20Theme%20Applica...), is it on purpose? </off topic> Simon
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
What's the difference between C2 and D?
D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none.
C is about all or none, no custom selection.
For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version.
Thanks, Caty
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons.
Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything
and
will
> look horrible. >
We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table:
* Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table)
So I don't see the problem with option C.
Thanks, Marius
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]
wrote:
> >> Hi everyone, >> >> thanks for your answers. >> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss >> about D in the dedicated issue. >> >> Simon >> >> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: >>> +1 for C. >>> >>> D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button > like >>> "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. >>> >>> Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < [email protected]> a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected] >> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < [email protected]
>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in > the >>>>>>> recycle bin. >>>>>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like > for >>>>>>> the users. >>>>>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>>>>> >>>> >>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A. A simple button >>>>>> -1 >>>>>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>>>>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>>>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > need a >>>>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > between >>>> D. + >>>>> C. >>>>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > cases, >>>>> since this needs is recurrent. >>>> >>>> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >>>> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >>>> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Caty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to >> do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Simon Urli >>>>>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Adel >>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Simon Urli >> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> [email protected] >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >> >
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:40 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
On 02/11/2018 12:32, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we don't have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT?
I'm ok with preserving the position of the button. Now regarding the kind of button we want to display, I'm a bit afraid that using the same delete icon might be confusing for the user, and that he'd need to click on it to understand it's a "delete all".
I also want to have consistency but we need to make obvious the role of this button.
<off topic> Side remark about the icon used in this livetable: it seems that for the icons actions we're not using the Icon Theme Application ( https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Icon%20Theme%20Applica...),
is it on purpose?
It's old, see https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14343
</off topic>
Simon
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
What's the difference between C2 and D?
D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a
Select
All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none.
C is about all or none, no custom selection.
For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version.
Thanks, Caty
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons.
Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C :
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVa...
Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design.
Simon
On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything
and
will >> look horrible. >> > > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: > > * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > > So I don't see the problem with option C. > > Thanks, > Marius > > >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli <[email protected]
wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> thanks for your answers. >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss >>> about D in the dedicated issue. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: >>>> +1 for C. >>>> >>>> D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button >> like >>>> "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. >>>> >>>> Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < [email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < [email protected] >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Simon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < [email protected]
>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in >> the >>>>>>>> recycle bin. >>>>>>>> However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like >> for >>>>>>>> the users. >>>>>>>> I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A. A simple button >>>>>>> -1 >>>>>>>> B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>>>>>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>>>>>>> C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also >> need a >>>>>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix >> between >>>>> D. + >>>>>> C. >>>>>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use >> cases, >>>>>> since this needs is recurrent. >>>>> >>>>> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >>>>> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >>>>> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Caty >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to >>> do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Simon Urli >>>>>>>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Adel >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Urli >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> [email protected] >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
-- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS [email protected] More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
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Vincent Massol