Hi, I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this: * JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc). Here's my +1 Please cast your votes. Thanks -Vincent
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
+1 Stéphane
+1 Catalin On 6/12/07, Stéphane Laurière <[email protected]> wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
+1
Stéphane
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Not sure if my vote counts, but +1 from me. :) Radu
+1 On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
+1 On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
+1 2007/6/12, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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+1 2007/6/12, Jean-Vincent Drean <[email protected]>:
+1
2007/6/12, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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+1 :) On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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Hi Radu, Jonas and Asiri, It's fine that you to let us know what you think. However, you should be aware that only the XWiki commiters are the ones who should vote on such issues. You might want to have a look at this document: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Committership Regards, Catalin On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 :)
On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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I had my doubts, sorry about the mess.... - Asiri On 6/13/07, Catalin Hritcu <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Radu, Jonas and Asiri,
It's fine that you to let us know what you think. However, you should be aware that only the XWiki commiters are the ones who should vote on such issues. You might want to have a look at this document:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Committership
Regards, Catalin
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 :)
On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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OFFTOPIC: I said mine might not count, but since I kinda started the mess, felt like I had to 'thumbs up'. :) On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
I had my doubts, sorry about the mess....
- Asiri
On 6/13/07, Catalin Hritcu <[email protected] > wrote:
Hi Radu, Jonas and Asiri,
It's fine that you to let us know what you think. However, you should be aware that only the XWiki commiters are the ones who should vote on such issues. You might want to have a look at this document:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Committership
Regards, Catalin
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 :)
On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from
the
libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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Yes, please do send votes. They won't be binding but it's good to know what others think as well. Thanks -Vincent On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Radu Danciu wrote:
OFFTOPIC: I said mine might not count, but since I kinda started the mess, felt like I had to 'thumbs up'. :)
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake < [email protected]> wrote: I had my doubts, sorry about the mess....
- Asiri
On 6/13/07, Catalin Hritcu < [email protected] > wrote: Hi Radu, Jonas and Asiri,
It's fine that you to let us know what you think. However, you should be aware that only the XWiki commiters are the ones who should vote on such issues. You might want to have a look at this document:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Committership
Regards, Catalin
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 :)
On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to
standardize on
1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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This is the pulse of the users. After all, we're building a platform for the users, not for the developers. So, users should vote, but that doesn't mean their vote will change the outcome. They can bring good enough arguments to change a developer's opinion. Sergiu On 6/13/07, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, please do send votes. They won't be binding but it's good to know what others think as well.
Thanks -Vincent
On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Radu Danciu wrote: OFFTOPIC: I said mine might not count, but since I kinda started the mess, felt like I had to 'thumbs up'. :)
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake < [email protected]> wrote:
I had my doubts, sorry about the mess....
- Asiri
On 6/13/07, Catalin Hritcu < [email protected] > wrote:
Hi Radu, Jonas and Asiri,
It's fine that you to let us know what you think. However, you should be aware that only the XWiki commiters are the ones who should vote on such issues. You might want to have a look at this document:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Committership
Regards, Catalin
On 6/13/07, Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> wrote:
+1 :)
On 6/12/07, Vincent Massol < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from
the
libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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0 At this point after talking with some clients, I think it is still a problem to widely switch to 1.5 at this point. Many big customers are running WebSphere 6.0 which is Java 1.4. We could exclude ourselves from these users, so we need to be carefull. I would vote +1 for a default build in java 1.5 as long as we don't change core libraries to only 1.5 compatible library but only new non critical features that are only 1.5. Which means we should still be able to compile a limited version of XWiki in 1.4 by excluding these additionals non compatible features. This also means which should not include any 1.5 language features in our core code Ludovic Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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Has this thread yet developed into a decision? I'm told that it should be decided within 72 hours of the posting, whereas it has been more than a week since the vote started. I would really like to start working on my project by now, and actually see it in action, so I'd apreciate if this matter was solved rather soon. Radu On 6/15/07, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:
0 At this point after talking with some clients, I think it is still a problem to widely switch to 1.5 at this point. Many big customers are running WebSphere 6.0 which is Java 1.4. We could exclude ourselves from these users, so we need to be carefull. I would vote +1 for a default build in java 1.5 as long as we don't change core libraries to only 1.5 compatible library but only new non critical features that are only 1.5. Which means we should still be able to compile a limited version of XWiki in 1.4 by excluding these additionals non compatible features. This also means which should not include any 1.5 language features in our core code
Ludovic
Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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Hi Radu, On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Radu Danciu wrote:
Has this thread yet developed into a decision? I'm told that it should be decided within 72 hours of the posting, whereas it has been more than a week since the vote started. I would really like to start working on my project by now, and actually see it in action, so I'd apreciate if this matter was solved rather soon.
This decision shouldn't block you at all. Actually you should put your code in a plugin in xwiki-plugins/. That'll cleanly separate it from the core and that'll also allow you to use JDK 1.5 for your plugin. Regarding the vote, 72 hours is a minimum and yes I'll close the vote. Ludovic wasn't completely in agreement so I let a few day pass. I'll wrap the vote soon but again don't let that hold you on anything. Thanks -Vincent
On 6/15/07, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:
0 At this point after talking with some clients, I think it is still a problem to widely switch to 1.5 at this point. Many big customers are running WebSphere 6.0 which is Java 1.4. We could exclude ourselves from these users, so we need to be carefull. I would vote +1 for a default build in java 1.5 as long as we don't change core libraries to only 1.5 compatible library but only new non critical features that are only 1.5. Which means we should still be able to compile a limited version of XWiki in 1.4 by excluding these additionals non compatible features. This also means which should not include any 1.5 language features in our core code
Ludovic
Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
0 At this point after talking with some clients, I think it is still a problem to widely switch to 1.5 at this point. Many big customers are running WebSphere 6.0 which is Java 1.4. We could exclude ourselves from these users, so we need to be carefull. I would vote +1 for a default build in java 1.5 as long as we don't change core libraries to only 1.5 compatible library but only new non critical features that are only 1.5. Which means we should still be able to compile a limited version of XWiki in 1.4 by excluding these additionals non compatible features. This also means which should not include any 1.5 language features in our core code
I think you introduced css4j/dom4j recently in xwiki core for improving PDF output and these libs require JDK 1.5 :-) It would be a shame to go back to something less good. I'm not too familiar with your changes so maybe there are some 1.4 alternatives we could use. I'd prefer if we said that: 1) XWiki 1.1 is using 1.5 2) We make a version of XWiki 1.0 that runs on 1.4 I really don't think we can continue supporting 1.4 for long on trunk (actually we're not currently supporting it) but I'm ok to say that when someone wants to add a new lib to the core we take a call. Anyway the vote results are: * 6 +1 (binding) * 1 0 * 3 +1 (non binding) Thus the vote is passed. Thanks -Vincent
Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi,
I think it's time to officially decide if we want to standardize on 1.5. Some reasons we may want to do this:
* JDK 1.4 is old. 1.5 is mainstream. 1.6 is about to be released. * Most libraries have now switched to 1.5 and it's going to be real hard to stay on 1.4 if we want to get bug fixes/new features from the libraries we use * Radu needs to use some google jars for his GSOC and they seem to require JDK 1.5 * We already require 1.5 I believe (although it's a light dependency) and have been requiring 1.5 for now several months (> 5 months) and we haven't heard complaints from users about this
The vote is about officially dropping support for 1.4 and standardizing on 1.5 (and thus allowing us to use the new features of the language too like generics, annotations, etc).
Here's my +1
Please cast your votes.
Thanks -Vincent
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participants (10)
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Asiri Rathnayake -
Catalin Hritcu -
Jean-Vincent Drean -
Jonas Dias -
Ludovic Dubost -
Marta Girdea -
Radu Danciu -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Stéphane Laurière -
Vincent Massol