xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
Hi Marc, Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML? Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have. Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-579 Me and Marta are trying to make the generated code valid, but we don't have time to check the contributed content. This is why anybody writing something that will appear in the interface must validate his/her code. This includes panels, skin files, blog entries, and document contents. On 12/28/06, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have.
Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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Sorry for being bossy, but you too, Vincent, should validate the content you enter, as the main content writer. On 12/28/06, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-579
Me and Marta are trying to make the generated code valid, but we don't have time to check the contributed content. This is why anybody writing something that will appear in the interface must validate his/her code. This includes panels, skin files, blog entries, and document contents.
On 12/28/06, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have.
Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected] ] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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From: Sergiu Dumitriu [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance Sorry for being bossy, but you too, Vincent, should validate the content you enter, as the main content writer. Oh definitely ! See my answer in the other email. I know I’ve made several HTML “errors” while creating xwiki.org. I need to correct this. However it’s even more important than the code we have in the core produces valid HTML as that’s within our control. Whatever the user enter in the wiki is up to him… Thanks -Vincent On 12/28/06, Sergiu Dumitriu < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-579 Me and Marta are trying to make the generated code valid, but we don't have time to check the contributed content. This is why anybody writing something that will appear in the interface must validate his/her code. This includes panels, skin files, blog entries, and document contents. On 12/28/06, Vincent Massol < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hi Marc, Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML? Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have. Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org <http://xwiki.org> home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org>
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From: Sergiu Dumitriu [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-579 hehe… I had even commented on that issue for finding a way to automate the check in the build ;-) Me and Marta are trying to make the generated code valid, but we don't have time to check the contributed content. This is why anybody writing something that will appear in the interface must validate his/her code. This includes panels, skin files, blog entries, and document contents. Definitely. I’m the one who broke lots of HTML rules on xwiki.org. I definitely have to improve my HTML skills! Actually I think we should provide more macros so that users do not have to know HTML at all. For example the table on xwiki.org main page should be replaced by a {columns} macro ({columns}{column}{column}…{columns}). However for example on the validation example sent by Marc we can see that the attachments do not have the alt attribute. This is something that is done in SVN. Marc, if you can all help us on any of this, it would be great! J Thanks -Vincent On 12/28/06, Vincent Massol < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: Hi Marc, Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML? Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have. Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected] ] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org <http://xwiki.org> home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 21:06 To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance [snip] However for example on the validation example sent by Marc we can see that the attachments do not have the alt attribute. This is something that is done in SVN. Forget this, this is an error in my code in the page… I’ll fix it now. -Vincent On 12/28/06, Vincent Massol < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: Hi Marc, Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML? Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have. Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected] ] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org <http://xwiki.org> home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 14:44, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Apparently you got that covered. I may still help if needed.
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have.
I don't know how the build works. It could be a nice feature. May be jtidy could do the job. In this line of idea, you could provide a button somewhere to check the HTML. 2 options - use jtidy (included already in the libs) - use the same site leveraging its REST api (link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${XYZ}) It could be as discrete as a button laying down at the bottom of the page showing the W3C compliance logo if ok, and showing a bug if not. Clicking on it could then link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${thispage}. Actually it could be a cool velocity macro, doesn't it?
Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 23:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
On Thursday 28 December 2006 14:44, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Apparently you got that covered. I may still help if needed.
Thanks. One thing I still don't understand is why using width="80%" on a <td> element is not XHTML 1.0 strict compliant (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org). If you know the answer that'll help.
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of our build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have.
I don't know how the build works. It could be a nice feature. May be jtidy could do the job.
In this line of idea, you could provide a button somewhere to check the HTML. 2 options - use jtidy (included already in the libs) - use the same site leveraging its REST api (link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${XYZ})
It could be as discrete as a button laying down at the bottom of the page showing the W3C compliance logo if ok, and showing a bug if not. Clicking on it could then link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${thispage}.
Actually it could be a cool velocity macro, doesn't it?
Yep :-) Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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Vincent Massol a écrit :
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 23:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
On Thursday 28 December 2006 14:44, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Apparently you got that covered. I may still help if needed.
Thanks. One thing I still don't understand is why using width="80%" on a <td> element is not XHTML 1.0 strict compliant
Just because width is a style attribute and strict XHTML is for data, use CSS instead to format the page. W3C design the strict variant of XHTML not to contain layout information. The goal is to have a separation between data and layout, like others XML-based languages read : http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/#xhtml1
(http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org). If you know the answer that'll help.
"the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element" ... "use CSS instead of this attribute" It was written on the error page ;)
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of
our
build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be something cool to have.
I don't know how the build works. It could be a nice feature. May be jtidy could do the job.
In this line of idea, you could provide a button somewhere to check the HTML. 2 options - use jtidy (included already in the libs) - use the same site leveraging its REST api (link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${XYZ})
It could be as discrete as a button laying down at the bottom of the page showing the W3C compliance logo if ok, and showing a bug if not. Clicking on it could then link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${thispage}.
Actually it could be a cool velocity macro, doesn't it?
Yep :-)
Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
Thanks kilikopela! I've fixed the xwiki.org page which is now XHTML 1.0 strict compliant. However I've also ran a CSS check using http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org% 2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FMain%2F&warning=1&profile=css21&usermedium=all and it seems we have quite a few errors/Warnings. I guess we need to fix these too... Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: kilikopela [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: samedi 30 décembre 2006 22:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
Vincent Massol a écrit :
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 23:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
On Thursday 28 December 2006 14:44, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Marc,
Thanks for finding this out. That's cool. Do you think you could help us make it valid HTML?
Apparently you got that covered. I may still help if needed.
Thanks. One thing I still don't understand is why using width="80%"
on
a <td> element is not XHTML 1.0 strict compliant
Just because width is a style attribute and strict XHTML is for data, use CSS instead to format the page. W3C design the strict variant of XHTML not to contain layout information. The goal is to have a separation between data and layout, like others XML-based languages read : http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/#xhtml1
(http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org). If you know the answer that'll help.
"the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element" ... "use CSS instead of this attribute" It was written on the error page ;)
Feel free to open jira issues and attach patches to them
In the future, it would be cool to have this validation as part of
our
build somehow. I haven't researched this but that would be
something
cool to have.
I don't know how the build works. It could be a nice feature. May be jtidy could do the job.
In this line of idea, you could provide a button somewhere to check the HTML. 2 options - use jtidy (included already in the libs) - use the same site leveraging its REST api (link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${XYZ})
It could be as discrete as a button laying down at the bottom of the page showing the W3C compliance logo if ok, and showing a bug if not. Clicking on it could then link to http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=${thispage}.
Actually it could be a cool velocity macro, doesn't it?
Yep :-)
Thanks -Vincent
-----Original Message----- From: Marc Lijour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: jeudi 28 décembre 2006 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [xwiki-dev] W3C compliance
xwiki.org home page is not valid html: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org
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On 12/31/06, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks kilikopela!
I've fixed the xwiki.org page which is now XHTML 1.0 strict compliant.
However I've also ran a CSS check using
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org% 2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FMain%2F&warning=1&profile=css21&usermedium=all and it seems we have quite a few errors/Warnings.
I guess we need to fix these too...
Definitely.
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kilikopela -
Marc Lijour -
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Vincent Massol