[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Default link target options in the new WYSIWYG editor
Hi, I'd like to propose that the default target option for link insertion in the new WYSIWYG editor be as follows: - Internal link: use the default target (not specified) - External Links: use target_blank to force opening the page in a new tab / window (at a later stage we could do the same thing that otehr wikis such as Confluence or MediaWiki and add a small icon showing that the links points to outside of the wiki) So that the user does not lose contact with the wiki. WDYT? Guillaume -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki Skype ID : wikibc http://blog.xwiki.com/
+1 Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi, I'd like to propose that the default target option for link insertion in the new WYSIWYG editor be as follows:
- Internal link: use the default target (not specified) - External Links: use target_blank to force opening the page in a new tab / window (at a later stage we could do the same thing that otehr wikis such as Confluence or MediaWiki and add a small icon showing that the links points to outside of the wiki)
So that the user does not lose contact with the wiki.
WDYT?
Guillaume
+1 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to propose that the default target option for link insertion in the new WYSIWYG editor be as follows:
- Internal link: use the default target (not specified) - External Links: use target_blank to force opening the page in a new tab / window (at a later stage we could do the same thing that otehr wikis such as Confluence or MediaWiki and add a small icon showing that the links points to outside of the wiki)
So that the user does not lose contact with the wiki.
WDYT?
Guillaume
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Hi Guillaume, We've had this discussion in the past already and Sergiu and others made a strong argument against doing this. Their point is that it's the user who should decide and all browsers have features to decide whether to open a link in the same page or in another page and it shouldn't be dictated to the user. I think one solution would be to make this configurable. Then we need to decide what would be the default (off probably). Thanks -Vincent On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi, I'd like to propose that the default target option for link insertion in the new WYSIWYG editor be as follows:
- Internal link: use the default target (not specified) - External Links: use target_blank to force opening the page in a new tab / window (at a later stage we could do the same thing that otehr wikis such as Confluence or MediaWiki and add a small icon showing that the links points to outside of the wiki)
So that the user does not lose contact with the wiki.
WDYT?
Guillaume
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
We've had this discussion in the past already and Sergiu and others made a strong argument against doing this. Their point is that it's the user who should decide and all browsers have features to decide whether to open a link in the same page or in another page and it shouldn't be dictated to the user.
And I keep my opinion. -1.
I think one solution would be to make this configurable. Then we need to decide what would be the default (off probably).
+1
On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi, I'd like to propose that the default target option for link insertion in the new WYSIWYG editor be as follows:
- Internal link: use the default target (not specified) - External Links: use target_blank to force opening the page in a new tab / window (at a later stage we could do the same thing that otehr wikis such as Confluence or MediaWiki and add a small icon showing that the links points to outside of the wiki)
So that the user does not lose contact with the wiki.
WDYT?
-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
We've had this discussion in the past already and Sergiu and others made a strong argument against doing this. Their point is that it's the user who should decide and all browsers have features to decide whether to open a link in the same page or in another page and it shouldn't be dictated to the user.
For a second I thought we were trying to please 90% of the users, those who don't know that this behavior is configurable ;) 99% of the times I've configured "target" in the past was to be sure that users wouldn't be sent away from the current website when clicking on an external link, but that's just me. JV.
Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
We've had this discussion in the past already and Sergiu and others made a strong argument against doing this. Their point is that it's the user who should decide and all browsers have features to decide whether to open a link in the same page or in another page and it shouldn't be dictated to the user.
For a second I thought we were trying to please 90% of the users, those who don't know that this behavior is configurable ;) 99% of the times I've configured "target" in the past was to be sure that users wouldn't be sent away from the current website when clicking on an external link, but that's just me.
JV.
Agreed. + As I understand Guillaume's proposal, it is not about dictating to the user, but just providing a default value, free to the user to modify it if needed. (a default value which would match most of the time what the user really wants.) Jerome.
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On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
We've had this discussion in the past already and Sergiu and others made a strong argument against doing this. Their point is that it's the user who should decide and all browsers have features to decide whether to open a link in the same page or in another page and it shouldn't be dictated to the user.
For a second I thought we were trying to please 90% of the users, those who don't know that this behavior is configurable ;) 99% of the times I've configured "target" in the past was to be sure that users wouldn't be sent away from the current website when clicking on an external link, but that's just me.
So you now disagree with you earlier +1 ? Thanks -Vincent
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Guillaume Lerouge -
Jean-Vincent Drean -
Jerome Velociter -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Vincent Massol