[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XWiki 6.x Cycle Theme
Hi devs, We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x. At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea: Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc… In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects. So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast! Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme. WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
Hi devs, You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one : Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance. So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ? On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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On 01/08/2014 02:19 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
Hi devs,
You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one : Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance.
So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ?
Agreed.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
On 8 Jan 2014 at 20:20:12, Denis Gervalle ([email protected]) wrote: Hi devs, You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one : Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance. So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ? Sounds good to me! :) Thanks -Vincent On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
2014/1/8 [email protected] <[email protected]>
On 8 Jan 2014 at 20:20:12, Denis Gervalle ([email protected]) wrote:
Hi devs,
You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one : Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance.
So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ? Sounds good to me! :)
This is my binding +1 :) LM
Thanks
-Vincent
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]
wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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+1 to the proposal +1 to seperating the core from the extensions (although this does mean we need to start thinking about what extensions make XWiki Enterprise what it is and how will the development of these be managed...) +1 to performance, this is a first-impression issue and although we're competing well with other Enterprise Java technologies, the world is changing and the new-comers are promoting fast clean UIs built on modern (perhaps unproven) technologies. +1 to security, the signing of things is great but I'd also like to suggest research of sandboxing technologies because sandboxing helps users who do not store critical secret information on their wiki but they want guarantees that it will not be an entry-point for hackers into their server. Over all +1 Thanks, Caleb On 01/08/2014 08:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On 8 Jan 2014 at 20:20:12, Denis Gervalle ([email protected]) wrote:
Hi devs,
You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one : Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance.
So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ? Sounds good to me! :)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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+1 for me the direction of the theme is straightforward and logical :) Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <[email protected]>wrote:
+1 to the proposal
+1 to seperating the core from the extensions (although this does mean we need to start thinking about what extensions make XWiki Enterprise what it is and how will the development of these be managed...)
+1 to performance, this is a first-impression issue and although we're competing well with other Enterprise Java technologies, the world is changing and the new-comers are promoting fast clean UIs built on modern (perhaps unproven) technologies.
+1 to security, the signing of things is great but I'd also like to suggest research of sandboxing technologies because sandboxing helps users who do not store critical secret information on their wiki but they want guarantees that it will not be an entry-point for hackers into their server.
Over all +1
Thanks, Caleb
On 01/08/2014 08:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On 8 Jan 2014 at 20:20:12, Denis Gervalle ([email protected]) wrote:
Hi devs,
You propose a double S theme, my feeling would be to have a triple S one
:
Slick, Slim and Secure ! I know, I am a little bit biased on the security aspect since I have taken over the work of Thomas Delafosse, but I have the strong feeling that this aspect is closely related with the other two. Apart the security hole closing, it would be nice to work on the authentication module and a contextual authorization one, since the direct usage of the authorization module is not appropriate. If we want the modularity required to build a minimal core, this would be surely needed. Improving those feature will also improve performance.
So, IMO, the triple S motto would fit even better for the 6.x cycle. WDYT ? Sounds good to me! :)
Thanks
-Vincent
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, [email protected] <[email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
We’re getting close to the end of the 5.x cycle with 5.4 and we need to find a new theme for 6.x.
At XWiki SAS we’ve had an internal meeting to brainstorm about what that theme could be and we’ve come up with the following idea:
Theme motto: “Slick and Slim” Explanations: * Performance improvements across the board: page load time, scalability, activity stream rewrite, memory usage rationalization * Introduce the flavor mechanism (as already discussed here) with the idea of removing the maximum of extensions from the base and be able to build a minimal, lightweight wiki + create a few flavors (as already discussed here too). * Slickiness achieved with things like new skin (see the proposal from Caty) + syntax highlighting + autocompletion + easier rights UI + etc…
In short we’ve realized that XWiki has grown along the years and it’s becoming a bit heavyweight in various aspects.
So the idea would be to focus on performances + ease of use to slim it down and ensure it’s kicking fast!
Of course, as usual, I’m sure there’ll be other things being worked on, but the idea would be to try our maximum to work within this theme.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
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