[xwiki-devs] GSOC 2013 - Advanced Email Integration project
Hi , my name is Sushil Kumar and i'm an undergraduate student at JIIT , Noida (India) . I would like to work on the project Advanced Email Integration via GSOC 2013 . I consulted about the work that need to be done in this project on IRC channel and got a nice explanation . But there was a dilemma between what have to be done in this project and what has already being done here https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive . Well here are the bullet points which i have understood after two days of talks on IRC . - A SMTP server is required to receive mails and then to attach them as XWikiComments object to a document. - sdumitriu suggested me to use Apache James , but he said that its a full blown mail server and we only need receiving part hence we need to slice that part out. - I found it very hard to slice the SMTP part and embed it with Jetty ( its hard without rewriting the code from scratch and taking help from James and MailArchive plugin ) Now after all these i have certain doubts regarding what exactly needs to be done in this project . - Do we have to integrate a mail server or have to write our own SMTP receiver ? - If we have to integrate a mail server do we have to slice out the SMTP part only? - Or is it something entirely different from these two points. P.S. The same dilemma exists for the Jabber part too. But will figure it out once Email Integration is well understood. Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar
Hello, Some comments, 2013/4/21 Sushil Kumar <[email protected]>
Hi , my name is Sushil Kumar and i'm an undergraduate student at JIIT , Noida (India) . I would like to work on the project Advanced Email Integration via GSOC 2013 . I consulted about the work that need to be done in this project on IRC channel and got a nice explanation . But there was a dilemma between what have to be done in this project and what has already being done here https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive .
That project is divided in some components, one of them being in charge of reading emails from a server connection (IMAP or whatever, but I only tested on IMAP). It uses Javamail under the hood. https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive/tree/feature-... This is the link to that component, on a feature branch because I refactored it a lot for the import feature. So currently it aims at "loading" emails from mail servers, or from archives in MBOX format. I wouldn't say I'm satisfied currently of its design or API (well any help welcome of course ;-) ), and event if not tagged like that (yet), it's pretty much @Unstable ... But it might help you at least as a sample, of course if you use James it's redundant. Currently the components does mainly 2 things: "load" emails from a server/an archive, and parses them to create a non-javamail object (MailItem/MailContent).
Well here are the bullet points which i have understood after two days of talks on IRC .
- A SMTP server is required to receive mails and then to attach them as XWikiComments object to a document.
For my culture, why only SMTP ?
- sdumitriu suggested me to use Apache James , but he said that its a full blown mail server and we only need receiving part hence we need to slice that part out. - I found it very hard to slice the SMTP part and embed it with Jetty ( its hard without rewriting the code from scratch and taking help from James and MailArchive plugin )
I don't know how James and MailArchive would go together, I think they're pretty much redundant as I noticed above ... I don't know James very well though.
Now after all these i have certain doubts regarding what exactly needs to be done in this project .
- Do we have to integrate a mail server or have to write our own SMTP receiver ? - If we have to integrate a mail server do we have to slice out the SMTP part only? - Or is it something entirely different from these two points.
P.S. The same dilemma exists for the Jabber part too. But will figure it out once Email Integration is well understood.
Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Hi Jeremie , Thanks for reply. But i'm still confused about the goal of the project. Is it using the plugin code and make it more robust or adding some email server with the xWiki. Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
Some comments,
2013/4/21 Sushil Kumar <[email protected]>
Hi , my name is Sushil Kumar and i'm an undergraduate student at JIIT , Noida (India) . I would like to work on the project Advanced Email Integration via GSOC 2013 . I consulted about the work that need to be done in this project on IRC channel and got a nice explanation . But there was a dilemma between what have to be done in this project and what has already being done here https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive .
That project is divided in some components, one of them being in charge of reading emails from a server connection (IMAP or whatever, but I only tested on IMAP). It uses Javamail under the hood.
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive/tree/feature-... This is the link to that component, on a feature branch because I refactored it a lot for the import feature. So currently it aims at "loading" emails from mail servers, or from archives in MBOX format. I wouldn't say I'm satisfied currently of its design or API (well any help welcome of course ;-) ), and event if not tagged like that (yet), it's pretty much @Unstable ... But it might help you at least as a sample, of course if you use James it's redundant. Currently the components does mainly 2 things: "load" emails from a server/an archive, and parses them to create a non-javamail object (MailItem/MailContent).
Well here are the bullet points which i have understood after two days of talks on IRC .
- A SMTP server is required to receive mails and then to attach them
as
XWikiComments object to a document.
For my culture, why only SMTP ?
- sdumitriu suggested me to use Apache James , but he said that its a full blown mail server and we only need receiving part hence we need to slice that part out. - I found it very hard to slice the SMTP part and embed it with Jetty ( its hard without rewriting the code from scratch and taking help from James and MailArchive plugin )
I don't know how James and MailArchive would go together, I think they're pretty much redundant as I noticed above ... I don't know James very well though.
Now after all these i have certain doubts regarding what exactly needs to be done in this project .
- Do we have to integrate a mail server or have to write our own SMTP receiver ? - If we have to integrate a mail server do we have to slice out the
SMTP
part only? - Or is it something entirely different from these two points.
P.S. The same dilemma exists for the Jabber part too. But will figure it out once Email Integration is well understood.
Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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Hi, Indeed I'm not responsible for the GSoC project, but there were some discussions on this topic that may help you: http://xwiki.markmail.org/search/?q=advanced%20email#query:advanced%20email+... As far as I understood, the purpose of the GSoC project is to provide social interaction / synchronization between page comments and emails, the mail archive project purpose is more to really create an archive of emails, something close to nabble, markmail ... but inside xwiki. Of course both projects may have similarities while they are in fact quite different. My purpose was only to give you some piece of information about the mail archive project, but in no way to influence you to use whatever technology / plugin, or to promote a particular architecture, this is your responsibility and the one of xwiki dev team ;-) BR, Jeremie 2013/4/22 Sushil Kumar <[email protected]>
Hi Jeremie , Thanks for reply. But i'm still confused about the goal of the project. Is it using the plugin code and make it more robust or adding some email server with the xWiki.
Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
Some comments,
2013/4/21 Sushil Kumar <[email protected]>
Hi , my name is Sushil Kumar and i'm an undergraduate student at JIIT , Noida (India) . I would like to work on the project Advanced Email Integration via GSOC 2013 . I consulted about the work that need to be done in this project on IRC channel and got a nice explanation . But there was a dilemma between what have to be done in this project and what has already being done here https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive .
That project is divided in some components, one of them being in charge of reading emails from a server connection (IMAP or whatever, but I only tested on IMAP). It uses Javamail under the hood.
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-application-mailarchive/tree/feature-...
This is the link to that component, on a feature branch because I refactored it a lot for the import feature. So currently it aims at "loading" emails from mail servers, or from archives in MBOX format. I wouldn't say I'm satisfied currently of its design or API (well any help welcome of course ;-) ), and event if not tagged like that (yet), it's pretty much @Unstable ... But it might help you at least as a sample, of course if you use James it's redundant. Currently the components does mainly 2 things: "load" emails from a server/an archive, and parses them to create a non-javamail object (MailItem/MailContent).
Well here are the bullet points which i have understood after two days
of
talks on IRC .
- A SMTP server is required to receive mails and then to attach them as XWikiComments object to a document.
For my culture, why only SMTP ?
- sdumitriu suggested me to use Apache James , but he said that its a full blown mail server and we only need receiving part hence we need to slice that part out. - I found it very hard to slice the SMTP part and embed it with Jetty ( its hard without rewriting the code from scratch and taking help from James and MailArchive plugin )
I don't know how James and MailArchive would go together, I think they're pretty much redundant as I noticed above ... I don't know James very well though.
Now after all these i have certain doubts regarding what exactly needs
to
be done in this project .
- Do we have to integrate a mail server or have to write our own SMTP receiver ? - If we have to integrate a mail server do we have to slice out the SMTP part only? - Or is it something entirely different from these two points.
P.S. The same dilemma exists for the Jabber part too. But will figure it out once Email Integration is well understood.
Thanks and Regards Sushil Kumar _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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