Apparently I sent this to the wrong list first - I just went off the information on the wiki site.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Henrik Østerlund Gram <[email protected]> Date: May 15, 2005 6:06 AM Subject: status and direction To: [email protected] Hello, I've been looking for a wiki both for my personal use as a private knowledge db and business use for the company I work for. Currently we use the well-known phpWiki, which is fine in many respects but lack 1) attachments and 2) access restrictions which are crucial in both of my uses. I stumbled across xwiki, installed it and it looks somewhat promissing thus far. A few questions comes to mind: 1. Since the latest release is dated back in january, I'm wondering if it is still being actively developed? How many are working on it? 2. I'm seeing a lot of errors in the log regarding xwiki's use of the hibernate package; mostly assertion failures, 'Exception while deleting object', nonthreadsafe access to session, ... 3. I'm also seeing these errors for every page every time: 05:36:40,456 WARN http-8080-Processor17 http://10.255.1.1:8080/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome XWikiStatsServiceImpl:addCookie:466 - Setting cookie BPKBLIBSZICKFADT4TP9DBNFRR4EAKJY for name visitid with domain null and path / and maxage -136366 05:36:40,458 WARN http-8080-Processor17 http://10.255.1.1:8080/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome XWikiStatsServiceImpl:findVisit:306 - Found visit with cookie SSHDY9HF4LBBYCE8ACVJ5O2A5OEXVBEC in session 6288D7442AD591E4FED5FE4670386255 for request with cookie BPKBLIBSZICKFADT4TP9DBNFRR4EAKJY 4. I'm a little confused about the access rights as they work right now. Basicly what I'm looking for is being able have a bunch of people devided into groups like 'sysadmins', 'sales' and 'support' - for example. The sysadmins will have a private place to store information about network configuration, fileservers, passwords, etc.. the sales people will read and update productinformation, notes about customers, ... and the support people can see status reports from the sysadmins but obviously not access sensetive information from sysadmins or sales. Is this possible today? When I was trying to make the wiki totally private, the only thing that happened was the layout was screwed up, but the content was accessible.. what is the difference between Space rights/prefs and Wiki rights/prefs btw? The only 'major' drawback I've seen so far is that it seems really slow... I don't know if that is because of the errors above or something else. In any case, I think it has good potential and is something I might like to contribute to. Is there a development roadmap of sorts? Thanks for listening :-) Regards, Henrik Østerlund Gram Software & Network Engineer, Oslo, Norway
Hi Henrik, You are in the right list now.. See my responses below.. Henrik Østerlund Gram a écrit :
Apparently I sent this to the wrong list first - I just went off the information on the wiki site..
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Henrik Østerlund Gram <[email protected]> Date: May 15, 2005 6:06 AM Subject: status and direction To: [email protected]
Hello,
I've been looking for a wiki both for my personal use as a private knowledge db and business use for the company I work for. Currently we use the well-known phpWiki, which is fine in many respects but lack 1) attachments and 2) access restrictions which are crucial in both of my uses. I stumbled across xwiki, installed it and it looks somewhat promissing thus far. A few questions comes to mind:
1. Since the latest release is dated back in january, I'm wondering if it is still being actively developed? How many are working on it?
The project is very active. It is not only an open source project but also is backed by a commercial strategy of support and services as well as the XWiki.com hosting service. We haven't released some code recently because we have been working on getting some clients on-board which have financed some specific features on the software. However we have been very active recently to add many new features and bug fixes in the product.. We are very close to a new release which will have many new things: Locking, LDAP authentication, Table of Content, Mail and LDAP APIs, additional web services APIs (for use for a demonstration at the XTech 2005 conference on May 26th). Some of the features have been added by contributors. We have currently a few contributors but which are very bright and efficient :) We hope to have more very soon and we would love to have you on board this very exciting project. The commercial company which I created a year ago to work on XWiki now has 3 full-time people and 2 interns. Needless to say that even having a commercial strategy we are commited to the Open Source model.
2. I'm seeing a lot of errors in the log regarding xwiki's use of the hibernate package; mostly assertion failures, 'Exception while deleting object', nonthreadsafe access to session, ...
These errors are non critical and happen in the statistics module.. I haven't had time to look for the problem and since it was non critical I had more important things to look at.
3. I'm also seeing these errors for every page every time:
05:36:40,456 WARN http-8080-Processor17 http://10.255.1.1:8080/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome XWikiStatsServiceImpl:addCookie:466 - Setting cookie BPKBLIBSZICKFADT4TP9DBNFRR4EAKJY for name visitid with domain null and path / and maxage -136366 05:36:40,458 WARN http-8080-Processor17 http://10.255.1.1:8080/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome XWikiStatsServiceImpl:findVisit:306 - Found visit with cookie SSHDY9HF4LBBYCE8ACVJ5O2A5OEXVBEC in session 6288D7442AD591E4FED5FE4670386255 for request with cookie BPKBLIBSZICKFADT4TP9DBNFRR4EAKJY
Same thing..
4. I'm a little confused about the access rights as they work right now. Basicly what I'm looking for is being able have a bunch of people devided into groups like 'sysadmins', 'sales' and 'support' - for example. The sysadmins will have a private place to store information about network configuration, fileservers, passwords, etc.. the sales people will read and update productinformation, notes about customers, ... and the support people can see status reports from the sysadmins but obviously not access sensetive information from sysadmins or sales. Is this possible today? When I was trying to make the wiki totally private, the only thing that happened was the layout was screwed up, but the content was accessible.. what is the difference between Space rights/prefs and Wiki rights/prefs btw?
I need some more time to help you out here.. Check out the FAQ on xwiki.com and if you still can't make it, contact me by IM (you'll find my contact information on the Contacts page on xwiki.com)
The only 'major' drawback I've seen so far is that it seems really slow... I don't know if that is because of the errors above or something else. In any case, I think it has good potential and is something I might like to contribute to. Is there a development roadmap of sorts?
There is a lot of stuff happening under the hood.. Now I would like to know what you call slow ? Maybe you have some other issues because normally the response time is pretty good once the server is first started. Concerning a developpement roadmap we do have some priorities and some stuff going on: - Jeremi (one of the interns) is working on Application Packages - The other intern is doing a study on usability which will trigger some work we will need to do (design + usability) - Jens Kramer is working on the email notification plugin (there is a first version available) - Jiri wanted to work on an offline client - We'll be working on performance & scalability + some new stuff for a more efficient storage model - Otherwise making it easier to develop small application is one of the main priorities - Being as good if not better than the "standard" wikis out there (MediaWiki, TWiki, SnipSnap, Confluence) on all wiki features is also a priority Many requested features are listed in the dev zone on XWiki.com But we still need some time to organize ourselves to create the roadmap.. The team wasn't that big so we spend more time coding than organizing.. Once this release is out the door we will spend some time organizing.. Ludovic
Thanks for listening :-)
Regards,
Henrik Østerlund Gram Software & Network Engineer, Oslo, Norway
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