[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Making "Edit this attachment" an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode
Hi devs, I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode. When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform. Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool. WDYT? ----- Silvia Rusu Tester & Documentation Writer - XWiki http://twitter.com/silviarusu -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Proposal-Making-Edit-this-attachment-an-advanced-featur... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
+1 Thanks, Marius Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
----- Silvia Rusu Tester & Documentation Writer - XWiki http://twitter.com/silviarusu
+1
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2".
I think this can be fixed easily. It's just that none seems to be using this feature in xwiki (otherwise i would work on maintaining it) (IMO) - Asiri
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1 This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with a simple click. Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better detect when WebDAV can be used in IE. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with a simple click.
"simple click"? That is after you find the right browser, install the extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and finally give up. I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at least with the current steps needed to install and configure. Marius
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT? -1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with a simple click.
"simple click"? That is after you find the right browser, install the extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and finally give up.
I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at least with the current steps needed to install and configure.
What about showing the "Edit this attachment" icon in simple mode only if the WebDAV support is available (i.e. FoxWiki extension installed on Firefox) and always in advanced mode. This way an experienced user can install and configure the WebDAV support making the feature available to all the simple users using the same machine. Marius
Marius
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
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Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT? -1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with a simple click. "simple click"? That is after you find the right browser, install the extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and finally give up.
I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at least with the current steps needed to install and configure.
What about showing the "Edit this attachment" icon in simple mode only if the WebDAV support is available (i.e. FoxWiki extension installed on Firefox) and always in advanced mode. This way an experienced user can install and configure the WebDAV support making the feature available to all the simple users using the same machine.
Agreed to remove the edit button if the FF extension is not already installed and configured. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with a simple click.
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
AFAIR WebDAV works OOB with IE and we have support for it. Attachment editing via WebDAV will work on IE without any plugins. It's firefox that needs an extension for WebDAV support (for which we extended FoXWiki). - Asiri
-- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user. It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users. Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it. Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed before activating the feature automatically? Thanks -Vincent
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user. It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users.
Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it. Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed before activating the feature automatically?
The feature detects if FoXWiki is installed, and: - if it is installed, make WebDAV work - if not, propose to install it So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Can we deactivate the feature for FF3.5.2 until FoXWiki fix their problem? This way users will not need to perform the unnecessary action of installing an extension they will not ultimately use. Sergiu Dumitriu-2 wrote:
So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
----- Silvia Rusu Tester & Documentation Writer - XWiki http://twitter.com/silviarusu -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Proposal-Making-Edit-this-attachment-an-advanced-featur... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment": - in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required ActiveX object" - in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible with Firefox 3.5.2". - installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT? -0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user. It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users.
Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it. Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed before activating the feature automatically?
The feature detects if FoXWiki is installed, and: - if it is installed, make WebDAV work - if not, propose to install it
So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one.
No it's not, there's a cryptic error in IE, and I installed FoXWiki on my FF 3.0, and set it up to edit images with GIMP (after I did all the trouble to install and still get an error in the end that foxwiki, which was supposed to allow me to edit, cannot edit since it doesn't know how. I know how to edit options of an extension, I know where my gimp is, etc so I could set it up but I don't think it's straightforward for all users). After all this, it opened the gimp but I have an error (smth like cannot open file from location because it didn't find it). Same problem as Marius said: "ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..)" If it's working as expected and I couldn't get it to work, then it means it's not simple. my 2 cents, Anca
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Anca Luca -
Asiri Rathnayake -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Silvia Rusu -
Vincent Massol