Thanks, I pushed files 2013/5/16 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]>

On 05/15/2013 07:28 PM, Frédéric Bouquet wrote:

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Hi,

I've just built two packages for archlinux, one concerning xwiki-enterprise, the other xwiki-manager. To install xwiki : yaourt -S xwiki-enterprise or yaourt -S xwiki-manager

Packages are here : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-enterprise/ and here : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-manager/

What about creating a repository for them on xwiki-contrib, for example : archlinux-packages ? If someone create the repo, I'll upload files tomorrow.

Created https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/packaging-archlinux

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As I use the packages, I'll keep them up to date as possible. The ideal situation may be to get enough votes that Arch devs maintain the packages ;) 2013/5/16 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]>

On 05/16/2013 01:54 PM, Frédéric Bouquet wrote:

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Thanks, I pushed files

Great.

My next question is: how do we make sure this keeps being updated for each stable release?

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2013/5/16 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]>

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On 05/15/2013 07:28 PM, Frédéric Bouquet wrote:

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Hi,

I've just built two packages for archlinux, one concerning xwiki-enterprise, the other xwiki-manager. To install xwiki : yaourt -S xwiki-enterprise or yaourt -S xwiki-manager

Packages are here : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-enterprise/ and here : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-manager/

What about creating a repository for them on xwiki-contrib, for example : archlinux-packages ? If someone create the repo, I'll upload files tomorrow.

Created https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/packaging-archlinux

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I was thinking of other DBS but I don't know yet the best solution. Let's explain the problem I see. When installing XWiki on a server database, the user may have changed default root password, he may also have installed other databases for other tools. 1. How to create XWiki database without knowing the username and password ? 2. In the case of XWiki-manager, if we give xwiki db user rights to create/drop databases, XWiki administrator may create tables in an db which host an other application, and by the way delete it. If xwiki db user only have default privileges, XWiki administrator will have to ask for a new db for each wiki he wants to create. How to decide which case to choose ? Here are the possible solutions I see : Try with default values and prompt an error if it did not work + small, simple - won't work for many cases Prompt at install time for decisions. + It solves all issues - Business rules are quiet complex - May be hard to maintain - Not sure it's a goor practice Document how to change and use an other DB + Easy to maintain + Do it yourself which is, I think the philosophy of Archlinux + Easy to automate using configuration manager systems (puppet/chief) - not fully automated By the way, it may be possible to provide some other packages on top of those which will install jdbc drivers, update config files and explain what modification to do according to the db I would prefer third solution. WDYT ? 2013/5/16 Jerome Velociter <[email protected]>

Hi,

That's great!

I see it's Tomcat + HSQLDB. Wouldn't it be better to have Tomcat + MySQL ?

Cheers,

Jérôme

Le 16/05/13 01:28, Frédéric Bouquet a écrit :

Hi,

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I've just built two packages for archlinux, one concerning xwiki-enterprise, the other xwiki-manager. To install xwiki : yaourt -S xwiki-enterprise or yaourt -S xwiki-manager

Packages are here : https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/xwiki-enterprise/<https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-enterprise/> and here : https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages/xwiki-manager/<https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xwiki-manager/>

What about creating a repository for them on xwiki-contrib, for example : archlinux-packages ? If someone create the repo, I'll upload files tomorrow.

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Hi, Thank you for your answer Thomas 2013/5/17 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Frédéric Bouquet <[email protected]> wrote:

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I was thinking of other DBS but I don't know yet the best solution.

Let's explain the problem I see. When installing XWiki on a server database, the user may have changed default root password, he may also have installed other databases for other tools. 1. How to create XWiki database without knowing the username and password ?

Debian package ask for it (that's what most DB applications do in Debian world). But it's easy to say when it's done by a standard Debian tool and not by us ;)

I asked on Archlinux forums and it seems to be a bad practice to ask for a configuration to the user (philosophy : KISS and do it yourself). The prefered solution seems to be installing a minimal system and provide basic explanation on how to change the configuration according to the needs. And also give a link to a more complete solution. I plan also to move the packaging to datasources instead of direct connections. I need a rampup on rpm packaging. As an exercise, I'll try to provide rpm packages for xwiki and, in such systems (centos/redhat/ ...), ask for what and how to configure. I think it's a more common practice on such systems

2. In the case of XWiki-manager, if we give xwiki db user rights to

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create/drop databases, XWiki administrator may create tables in an db which host an other application, and by the way delete it. If xwiki db user only have default privileges, XWiki administrator will have to ask for a new db for each wiki he wants to create. How to decide which case to choose ?

I would say ask for it too. Now I don't think a XEM package is really required since we are talking more and more of getting rid of it during the 5.x timeframe.

Same as before here. I'll upgrade the packages according to changes in XWiki, and if at the end enterprise and manager merge, it will be one package less to maintain ;) Concerning the datasource, I know it's possible to define one DS for multiple schema, but for a database as mysql where one DB can have only one schema, I'm not sure it's possible to point multiple databases using one datasource... In short, I'll have to investigate the subject ;) Thanks again for your feedback -- Frédéric Bouquet Twitter/Github : bouquetf http://www.espacedefouille.org/