[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Removal of XWiki.RequestsStatus page + agreement to work on integrating Admin Tools in the default flavor
Hi devs, Right now we have a XWiki.RequestsStatus page in xwiki-enterprise. This page shows information about the incoming requests if the monitor plugin is active. I’m proposing to remove it on the following basis: * It should be part of the Admin Tools Application (it probably is there already) * We should move the Admin Tools Application from xwiki-contrib to xwiki-platform and bundle it by default. Of course this should be done after having improved it: - following best practices - all pages converted to XWiki 2.1 syntax (several if not all are using XWiki Syntax 1.0!) - integrate it into the Admin UI (and not from the Applications Bar since I believe this is really admin stuff and best accessed from there). Specifically create a “Monitoring”/“Admin Tools” menu section in the Admin with several subsections for the different features. * Future: Deprecate the monitor plugin and replace it with a more recent framework such as Codehale Metrics To summarize, this proposal is about: * Removing that page and ensuring it’s in the Admin Tools app * Agreeing that once Admin Tools is nice enough we’ll move it xwiki-platform and bundle it in the base flavor WDYT? Thanks -Vincent
+1, sounds good. Thanks, Eduard On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
Right now we have a XWiki.RequestsStatus page in xwiki-enterprise. This page shows information about the incoming requests if the monitor plugin is active.
I’m proposing to remove it on the following basis:
* It should be part of the Admin Tools Application (it probably is there already) * We should move the Admin Tools Application from xwiki-contrib to xwiki-platform and bundle it by default. Of course this should be done after having improved it: - following best practices - all pages converted to XWiki 2.1 syntax (several if not all are using XWiki Syntax 1.0!) - integrate it into the Admin UI (and not from the Applications Bar since I believe this is really admin stuff and best accessed from there). Specifically create a “Monitoring”/“Admin Tools” menu section in the Admin with several subsections for the different features. * Future: Deprecate the monitor plugin and replace it with a more recent framework such as Codehale Metrics
To summarize, this proposal is about: * Removing that page and ensuring it’s in the Admin Tools app * Agreeing that once Admin Tools is nice enough we’ll move it xwiki-platform and bundle it in the base flavor
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
+0 I never have used Admin Tools, so: - I don't know how much is needed in order to clean them up and add them to platform - not sure about the default flavor, since I didn't use them so I cannot say if they are mandatory Thanks, Caty On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
+1, sounds good.
Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
Right now we have a XWiki.RequestsStatus page in xwiki-enterprise. This page shows information about the incoming requests if the monitor plugin is active.
I’m proposing to remove it on the following basis:
* It should be part of the Admin Tools Application (it probably is there already) * We should move the Admin Tools Application from xwiki-contrib to xwiki-platform and bundle it by default. Of course this should be done after having improved it: - following best practices - all pages converted to XWiki 2.1 syntax (several if not all are using XWiki Syntax 1.0!) - integrate it into the Admin UI (and not from the Applications Bar since I believe this is really admin stuff and best accessed from there). Specifically create a “Monitoring”/“Admin Tools” menu section in the Admin with several subsections for the different features. * Future: Deprecate the monitor plugin and replace it with a more recent framework such as Codehale Metrics
To summarize, this proposal is about: * Removing that page and ensuring it’s in the Admin Tools app * Agreeing that once Admin Tools is nice enough we’ll move it xwiki-platform and bundle it in the base flavor
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
I'm not a big fan of admin tools as standard module. It's a handy extension but last time I looked at it it was quite frightening (lots of things not working at all, most of the script assuming they were executed on MySQL, standard properties like xwiki.db and xwiki.db.prefix not taken into account...). Implement in standard some of the features of that extension why not (plus I'm sure it would be quicker and less dangerous than trying to make admin tool clean enough). On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
+0
I never have used Admin Tools, so: - I don't know how much is needed in order to clean them up and add them to platform - not sure about the default flavor, since I didn't use them so I cannot say if they are mandatory
Thanks, Caty
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
+1, sounds good.
Thanks, Eduard
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
Right now we have a XWiki.RequestsStatus page in xwiki-enterprise. This page shows information about the incoming requests if the monitor plugin is active.
I’m proposing to remove it on the following basis:
* It should be part of the Admin Tools Application (it probably is there already) * We should move the Admin Tools Application from xwiki-contrib to xwiki-platform and bundle it by default. Of course this should be done after having improved it: - following best practices - all pages converted to XWiki 2.1 syntax (several if not all are using XWiki Syntax 1.0!) - integrate it into the Admin UI (and not from the Applications Bar since I believe this is really admin stuff and best accessed from there). Specifically create a “Monitoring”/“Admin Tools” menu section in the Admin with several subsections for the different features. * Future: Deprecate the monitor plugin and replace it with a more recent framework such as Codehale Metrics
To summarize, this proposal is about: * Removing that page and ensuring it’s in the Admin Tools app * Agreeing that once Admin Tools is nice enough we’ll move it xwiki-platform and bundle it in the base flavor
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Thomas Mortagne
+1 to remove the page. +0 for bundling Admin Tools by default in the future. I'm not convinced it needs to be in the base flavor. Thanks, Marius On Mar 20, 2015 1:01 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
Right now we have a XWiki.RequestsStatus page in xwiki-enterprise. This
page shows information about the incoming requests if the monitor plugin is active.
I’m proposing to remove it on the following basis:
* It should be part of the Admin Tools Application (it probably is there
already)
* We should move the Admin Tools Application from xwiki-contrib to xwiki-platform and bundle it by default. Of course this should be done after having improved it: - following best practices - all pages converted to XWiki 2.1 syntax (several if not all are using XWiki Syntax 1.0!) - integrate it into the Admin UI (and not from the Applications Bar since I believe this is really admin stuff and best accessed from there). Specifically create a “Monitoring”/“Admin Tools” menu section in the Admin with several subsections for the different features. * Future: Deprecate the monitor plugin and replace it with a more recent framework such as Codehale Metrics
To summarize, this proposal is about: * Removing that page and ensuring it’s in the Admin Tools app * Agreeing that once Admin Tools is nice enough we’ll move it xwiki-platform and bundle it in the base flavor
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
participants (5)
-
Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) -
Eduard Moraru -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Thomas Mortagne -
vincent@massol.net