[xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] Feel like trying Gitter.im?
Hi devs, I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread). I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/ It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...). Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it. Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out. Thanks -Vincent
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Thomas Mortagne
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations): - https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test. Thanks -Vincent On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it): - https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join - https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting like a room for xwiki committers - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since that’s the public one. Thanks -Vincent On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
One issue I’ve just realized is that Gitter requires to log in with a github account (it does make it easy to create one from the web site). It would have been nicer to be to able to have social logins or even some anonymous mode which is what IRC offers. Is this a blocker/no go? Thanks -Vincent On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:33:50, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join - https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting like a room for xwiki committers - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers
Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since that’s the public one.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
Of course we also need to think about our IRC bot which has several nice features we need to keep. An especially important one IMO is the ability to have our logs archived on xwiki.org. Of course the gitter integrations are very easy to develop but it would still need to be done. Note that there’s a IRC bridge too that allows to continue using one’s own IRC client: https://irc.gitter.im/ Thanks -Vincent On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:07:12, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
One issue I’ve just realized is that Gitter requires to log in with a github account (it does make it easy to create one from the web site). It would have been nicer to be to able to have social logins or even some anonymous mode which is what IRC offers.
Is this a blocker/no go?
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:33:50, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join - https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting like a room for xwiki committers - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers
Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since that’s the public one.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Of course we also need to think about our IRC bot which has several nice features we need to keep. An especially important one IMO is the ability to have our logs archived on xwiki.org. Of course the gitter integrations are very easy to develop but it would still need to be done.
Note that there’s a IRC bridge too that allows to continue using one’s own IRC client: https://irc.gitter.im/
This applies for our IRC bot as well, as it is, as long as we create a github user for it to use while connecting to gitter's IRC bridge. Thanks, Eduard
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:07:12, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto: [email protected])) wrote:
One issue I’ve just realized is that Gitter requires to log in with a github account (it does make it easy to create one from the web site). It would have been nicer to be to able to have social logins or even some anonymous mode which is what IRC offers.
Is this a blocker/no go?
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:33:50, [email protected] ([email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join - https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting like a room for xwiki committers - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers
Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since that’s the public one.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, [email protected] ([email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ( [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re... ).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Interestingly Skype just announced the following yesterday which is great for communities (and would be nice for us too): http://blogs.skype.com/2015/10/15/a-new-easier-way-to-start-a-skype-conversa... Thanks -Vincent On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:56:05, Eduard Moraru ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:31 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Of course we also need to think about our IRC bot which has several nice features we need to keep. An especially important one IMO is the ability to have our logs archived on xwiki.org. Of course the gitter integrations are very easy to develop but it would still need to be done.
Note that there’s a IRC bridge too that allows to continue using one’s own IRC client: https://irc.gitter.im/
This applies for our IRC bot as well, as it is, as long as we create a github user for it to use while connecting to gitter's IRC bridge.
Thanks, Eduard
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 11:07:12, [email protected] ([email protected](mailto: [email protected])) wrote:
One issue I’ve just realized is that Gitter requires to log in with a github account (it does make it easy to create one from the web site). It would have been nicer to be to able to have social logins or even some anonymous mode which is what IRC offers.
Is this a blocker/no go?
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:33:50, [email protected] ([email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok so here’s more info (as I discover it):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki/public this open to everyone to join - https://gitter.im/xwiki is private to all members of the xwiki org in github, acting like a room for xwiki committers - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib is private to all members of the xwiki-contrib org in github, acting like a room for xwiki-contrib committers
Thus we should use the https://gitter.im/xwiki/public room as much as possible since that’s the public one.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 10:10:42, [email protected] ([email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
Ok for those interested to try it out, Thomas created the “xwiki” chat room and 4F2E4A2E created the “xwiki-contrib” one (they’re linked to the github organizations):
- https://gitter.im/xwiki - https://gitter.im/xwiki-contrib
We’ll see if we need to close one. ATM it’s just a test.
Thanks -Vincent
On 16 Oct 2015 at 09:56:23, Thomas Mortagne ( [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
At least the good thing for once is that they have a Linux desktop support and it works well.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi devs, > > I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread). > > I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/ > > It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re... ). > > Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it. > > Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out. > > Thanks > -Vincent
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Just discovered this: https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.org/?nick=visitor|?#xwiki It's a lot more modern look and feel than the webchat we have embedded on xwiki.org After that it's just a question of where you want to put the link or iframe. Caleb On 16/10/15 09:48, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Yes this is what I suggested on gitter. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 1:55 AM, Caleb James DeLisle <[email protected]> wrote:
Just discovered this: https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.org/?nick=visitor|?#xwiki It's a lot more modern look and feel than the webchat we have embedded on xwiki.org After that it's just a question of where you want to put the link or iframe.
Caleb
On 16/10/15 09:48, [email protected] wrote:
Hi devs,
I feel it would help the XWiki project if we had some chat infrastructure more user-friendly than IRC channel (which is currently mostly used by the xwiki developers and a few power contributors/users). I think it would help spread xwiki more and be more friendly to our community (btw the same should be done for the mailing list by moving the user mailing list to a forum but that’s for another thread).
I wonder if you guys would be interested to moving to another tool such as Gitter.im: https://gitter.im/
It seems to be nice for open communities. Nicer than Slack anyway (I’ve tried Slack for another community I’m in and we quickly reached the 10K messages and it’s not nice to have this red reminder message and you loose some messages that you can’t see - See http://blog.freecodecamp.com/2015/06/so-yeah-we-tried-slack-and-we-deeply-re...).
Of course another strategy would be to ask a company to host a tool for us, such as http://www.mattermost.org/ but setting it up and maintaining it has a price and we’d need to convince some company like XWiki SAS to do that and I’m not sure it’s worth it.
Let me know what you think and if you’re ok to try it, I’ll set up an org on gitter so that we can make an experiment and try it out.
Thanks -Vincent
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
_______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Thomas Mortagne
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