[xwiki-devs] Replacing mentions of OpenOffice
Hi everyone, I have been working with the application strings a fair bit lately when doing the German Translation for XWiki. While doing that I noticed a lot of the stuff says "OpenOffice". Now, this term is problematic, IMO. 1. "OpenOffice" is trademarked in the Netherlands and UK so the office suite opted for "OpenOffice.org", so if we were talking about this particular office suite, it should actually be "OpenOffice.org". 2. Since Sun was acquired by Oracle there was a major fork which created LibreOffice. The latter is going to be redistributed with Linux distributions such as Ubuntu. That means to say that using "OpenOffice" is kind of pointing to only one product, when more products are available. What I would like to discuss is if you would like to see a replacement of this very specific (and at least a little faulty) term and if so, what should it be? I thought about "Open Office" which is getting a little further away but I am really not happy with it either. "Open office suite" would be a little more generic and would include all OOo derivatives with the downside of including other potential open source office suites that got nothing to do with OOo at all (such as GNOME Office). Any comments on that? Regards, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Replacing-mentions-of-OpenOffice-tp6015531... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hi Johannes, thanks for the detailed remark. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 13:38, jstoldt <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have been working with the application strings a fair bit lately when doing the German Translation for XWiki. While doing that I noticed a lot of the stuff says "OpenOffice". Now, this term is problematic, IMO.
1. "OpenOffice" is trademarked in the Netherlands and UK so the office suite opted for "OpenOffice.org", so if we were talking about this particular office suite, it should actually be "OpenOffice.org".
2. Since Sun was acquired by Oracle there was a major fork which created LibreOffice. The latter is going to be redistributed with Linux distributions such as Ubuntu. That means to say that using "OpenOffice" is kind of pointing to only one product, when more products are available.
What I would like to discuss is if you would like to see a replacement of this very specific (and at least a little faulty) term and if so, what should it be? I thought about "Open Office" which is getting a little further away but I am really not happy with it either. "Open office suite" would be a little more generic and would include all OOo derivatives with the downside of including other potential open source office suites that got nothing to do with OOo at all (such as GNOME Office).
Any comments on that?
We could also simply go for a generic term such as "backend conversion module" or "office conversion module", which would obviate the issue altogether. Guillaume Regards,
Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Replacing-mentions-of-OpenOffice-tp6015531... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
Great idea! Although "Office Conversion Module" seems a little long for most occurences. But how about "Import Server", "Office Import Server" or "Office Server" instead of "OpenOffice Server". Adding the server because probably all occurences of "OpenOffice" in ApplicationResources.properties are followed by "Server". WDYT? Have a nice weekend, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Replacing-mentions-of-OpenOffice-tp6015531... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hi, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 15:55, jstoldt <[email protected]> wrote:
Great idea! Although "Office Conversion Module" seems a little long for most occurences. But how about "Import Server", "Office Import Server" or "Office Server" instead of "OpenOffice Server". Adding the server because probably all occurences of "OpenOffice" in ApplicationResources.properties are followed by "Server".
Yes, I guess "Office Server" would be fine as well. Guillaume WDYT?
Have a nice weekend, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Replacing-mentions-of-OpenOffice-tp6015531... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On 02/11/2011 04:25 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 15:55, jstoldt<[email protected]> wrote:
Great idea! Although "Office Conversion Module" seems a little long for most occurences. But how about "Import Server", "Office Import Server" or "Office Server" instead of "OpenOffice Server". Adding the server because probably all occurences of "OpenOffice" in ApplicationResources.properties are followed by "Server".
Yes, I guess "Office Server" would be fine as well.
+1 for "Office Server". -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On 02/13/2011 01:36 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
On 02/11/2011 04:25 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 15:55, jstoldt<[email protected]> wrote:
Great idea! Although "Office Conversion Module" seems a little long for most occurences. But how about "Import Server", "Office Import Server" or "Office Server" instead of "OpenOffice Server". Adding the server because probably all occurences of "OpenOffice" in ApplicationResources.properties are followed by "Server".
Yes, I guess "Office Server" would be fine as well.
+1 for "Office Server".
+1 too. Thanks, Marius
On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:38 PM, jstoldt wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have been working with the application strings a fair bit lately when doing the German Translation for XWiki. While doing that I noticed a lot of the stuff says "OpenOffice". Now, this term is problematic, IMO.
1. "OpenOffice" is trademarked in the Netherlands and UK so the office suite opted for "OpenOffice.org", so if we were talking about this particular office suite, it should actually be "OpenOffice.org".
2. Since Sun was acquired by Oracle there was a major fork which created LibreOffice. The latter is going to be redistributed with Linux distributions such as Ubuntu. That means to say that using "OpenOffice" is kind of pointing to only one product, when more products are available.
What I would like to discuss is if you would like to see a replacement of this very specific (and at least a little faulty) term and if so, what should it be? I thought about "Open Office" which is getting a little further away but I am really not happy with it either. "Open office suite" would be a little more generic and would include all OOo derivatives with the downside of including other potential open source office suites that got nothing to do with OOo at all (such as GNOME Office).
This seems to make sense. "Office Server" sounds good. However this is a costly change (and it's a major compatibility break) since this is not just about translation strings but also about several parts of the code (and the exposed script context variables). Changing only the translation strings fixes only point 2 above but not point 1 (don't know if it's a problem that it's trademarked, I believe Java too is trademarked for example). OTOH I'm -0 if we only consider translating strings and not the java code. Thanks -Vincent
Any comments on that?
Regards, Johannes
You are obviously right, I was really only speaking about the translation strings. I can do a patch for that which will resolve the issue for the User Interface but I lack knowledge and skill to do it for the Java code. So I can provide you with a patch on the resource strings but you will still have to figure out what way to go in the code. Regards, Johannes -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Replacing-mentions-of-OpenOffice-tp6015531... Sent from the XWiki- Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Guillaume Lerouge -
jstoldt -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Vincent Massol