Thanks Antonio that's great!

2 small comments:

1) on the main Skin page it seems you have removed the <server> or <yourserver> text I had put in the different URL. You've probably done that unintentionnally or you've use the WYSIWYG editor and there's a bug...

2) on the CSS Files page, you've used "xWiki" instead of "XWiki" :-)

If you don't beat me I'll fix those later tonight.

Thanks
-Vincent

On Mar 22, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Antonio Goncalves wrote:

Hi, I've added a CSS Files page with the comment that Sergiu sent. I'll be adding more information later on.
 
Antonio

 
2007/3/15, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing@gmail.com>:
I'm not the best "presentation layer" guy (god I've struggled so much with HTML and CSS) but I can do that. I will create a few pages explaining how skining works (Sergiu I might ask you more questions though). I'm leaving tonight for a long week-end at the mountain (still hoping to find some snow) and I'll start the job mid of next week.
 
Antonio

 
2007/3/15, Vincent Massol <vincent@massol.net>:
Guys,

 
What would be real cool would be to gather this information on xwiki.org :) Antonio, if this is something you can help with that'd be great as I know Sergiu is busy fixing bugs and implementing features for 1.0 Beta 6...

 
Thanks
-Vincent

On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Antonio Goncalves wrote:

Thanks Sergiu, that really helps to clarify things. I was using Firebug to try to understand which css property was inherited by which style and sometimes you can get lost. When you say that in the near future the skin will be cleaned up, do you have it planed ? Is it going to be for the 1.0 ?

BTW I just have a comment about what you said about the css files. I can understand why css styles are splited in different files, but wouldn't you want <h1> to have the same style of .heading-1 and therefore be in the same file ? Like <h2> for heading-1-1, <b> for bold and so on. For my skin I was going to do that because I don't want to have the same css code repeated in several files.

Thanks again

Antonio



2007/3/14, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu.dumitriu@gmail.com>:


On 3/14/07, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing@gmail.com > wrote:
Hi everybody,
 
I've started using xWiki a few weeks ago and now I want to make it look the way I want. So I'm trying to create my own skin. I read the Admin guide about it, plus other mails but I have to say it's not an easy task. I don't really know where to start because I don't understand all the css files. xwiki10b1 has 23 css files but I think only 11 are used. Am I right ( style.css; elements.css; classes.css; xwiki.css; wiki.css; page.css; rss.css; screenlayout.css; microformats.css; presentation.css; colorsblack.css;) ? If yes, what are the other ones used for (chw.css, colorsblue.css, customcoloes.css , style1.css...) ? Why is page.css empty, is it the one to fill ? In other words, which css should I change if I want another layout, another font, colours....
 

History:
1. At first, the skin was written in a few (~5) css files, where all the css properties were put together. (early variants of the 'default' skin)
2. Then came the idea of separating the different components of the skin: basic elements, layout, colors, etc. Some of the files from 1/ were split, part of the css was moved around. This happened along with working for the new skin ('xwiki10'), so old content was reorganized and new content was added. Together with the fact that very little time was available, the whole process ended in the mess you see in the current skin.
2b. At the same time, there was the idea of making a XWiki.Skin class, containing some options for colors, margins, widths, and to generate the skin based on these variables. For example, there should have been a 'padding' property which should have been used for panels, menu, page content... It was working for a while in the 'xwiki10' skin. The skin was supposed to be customized (well, based on the same general layout) using a skin wizard.
3. When work for the current skin ('xwiki10b1') started, even more css rules were created and added.
4. In the (near) future, the skin will be cleaned up, resulting in a clear separation of file purpose, no more deprecated code, and the ability to change easily the skin.
5. In the distant future, xwiki plugins will be able to register new css files, which won't be stored in the skins directory, but either as files in the jar/xar, or as attachments to a page.

Core files:

- style.css = top level style file. It's purpose is to include all the other files. If there is any other css in there, it shouldn't.
- elements.css = intended to provide general design rules regarding the html elements. For example, default font size and family for headings, underline for links, etc. It should not provide color properties.
- classes.css = like elements.css, but formats elements having a similar semantic meaning (after all, a class should have a semantic name, and not a random id). As examples, .underline, .hidden, .sep, .wikicreatelink, or .heading-1-1. This should only contain general classes, for specific elements see presentation.css
- screenlayout.css = the place where the general layout of the interface is specified. This file should contain rules regarding position, dimension and display mode for the major elements of the interface (header, side panels, menu, footer...)
- presentation.css = refinement of screenlayout.css. This is where borders, margins, paddings are set, font styling for objects not in elements.css or classes.css, along with some specific elements of the layout which are not affecting the general layout (where is the profile picture displayed, how is the comment auther displayed, etc.)
- colors*.css = the place where the skin gets painted. Without this file, the skin should be black and white only (except the blue links). Font color, background, border color,

Special purpose files:
- rss.css = a few rules to format how profile rss is displayed
- microformats.css = stylesheet to format the different microformats-enabled pages (user profile, blog, calendar...)
- chwSkin.css = formatting for the Chart Wizard (soon to be re-released)
- tdwSkin.css = formatting of the Table Datasource Wizard (part of Chart Wizard)
- print.css = formatting for the @media print. Currently kind of empty and useless, it must be written once the albatross skin is ready.

Deprecated (soon to be removed)
- wiki.css = it was supposed to format wiki generated syntax, like .wikilink and .heading-1-1
- xwiki.css = it was one of the few files holding css (stage 1)
- ie.css = some old hacks to make the 'default' skin work in IE too.
- styel1/2/3.css = variants of the 'default' skin, with green, pink and ~yellow colors.
- temp.css = used for some tests; generally a buffer before splitting rules among the other files.

Possibly usable files, if somebody makes the skin wizard.
- customlayout.css = a dynamic version of screenlayout.css, using properties defined in a skin object. Should be parsed by velocity.
- customcolors.css = same, but for colors.

Hope this helps.
Sergiu

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