On Jan 14, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:

Le 14 janv. 08 à 14:23, Vincent Massol a écrit :

On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:

May way there was simply to read the config and see that there's an admin password (for username "superadmin") that needs to be set there by removing the comment in front of the config line.
The official method is the one described in the installation guide.
[...] I suggest you start with the standalone distribution. It takes less than 5 minutes to get started once you've downloaded either the zip or the installer.

PS: Paul, there's no need to log in as superadmin since if your database is empty you'll have admin rights even when not logged in.

But the database gets filled right way, doesn't it ?

Ok I wasn't precise enough. Since XWiki doesn't see security classes (like XWiki.XWikiRights) it sets itself into no security mode. it's only when you import those classes that suddenly it starts checking rights.

So we loose admin rights fairly easily (eg. changing browsers).

What? I don't understand what you're saying. What does this have to do with browsers? Only thing you may loose by changing browsers are the cookies but that's just a convenience you can always log in again with your user...

I did not really experience what you describe, maybe I changed browsers halfway, in doubt that Safari or OmniWeb was imperfectly supported.

In all cases, how long should this admin right last ? The method seems slightly unsafe to my taste. I really prefer to take a stab at the config.

That won't change anything at all. All you'd do by enabling the superadmin user is introduce a security hole.

I think you don't understand what I'm saying :)

Most other "easy to install platforms" nowadays have a kind of wizard for the first-time connection which even includes the config of the database connection. This is at least the case of Moodle and Drupal. I remember a friend forwarding me:
http://www.lullabot.com/files/Drupal5Installing.mp4
I think it the eXo platform and Jahia are other examples with a configurator.

Are you talking about something else now? I thought the topic of this email was about getting an "empty database" from Morten...

Re the wizard, yes this is something planned. Right now we have the 2 ends of the spectrum:

- standalone installs. Does everything and gives a fully working system in less than a 1 minute (it's just an unzip or a simple installer)

- manual install (the WAR + config to set + DB to set up)

Since it's a wizard, it's pretty clear that you should "hang on" (and not change browsers, for example!). Generally it concludes by trying to write its own configuration (which of course fails in some cases, then you're told to change the files yourself).

I don't like installers in general but I feel that a configurator is rather a good thing except being yet another feature wish.

It's there in jira already...