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GREAT idea.
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From: users-bounces(a)xwiki.org [mailto:users-bounces@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Oliver
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:14 AM
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Subject: [xwiki-users] Brainstorming XWiki Favorites
We are looking at creating an internal Favorites system. with large XWiki's
it is easy for a user to forget where things are and search is not always
productive. Tags don't offer enough info to help much.
So we are thinking about creating a Favorites class with fields for name,
link/path and description. then a panel that shows your favorites.
Does that sound right to the group or is there a better way?
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Ok if we assume this is a good idea, then is it correct to assume we can
follow the Photo Album paradigm and create a class and sheet for favorites,
and then create a page that shows the favorites in a filtered list? I
suspect the panel will only be for creating favorites while in a page and
adding the name and description before saving.
The list of favorites would be a page the user can get to from the panel.
Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites class?
Ollie
Wright, Philip wrote:
Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds like a
GREAT idea.
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9:34 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Brainstorming XWiki Favorites
Hi Mike,
Ok if we assume this is a good idea, then is it correct to assume we can
follow the Photo Album paradigm and create a class and
sheet for favorites,
and then create a page that shows the favorites in a filtered list? I
suspect the panel will only be for creating favorites while in a page and
adding the name and description before saving.
The list of favorites would be a page the user can get to from the panel.
Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites class?
Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature that
basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
Cf http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication ,
it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
You might still want to add that description field though...
Guillaume
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Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds like a
GREAT idea.
Philip Wright
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9:56 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-users] Brainstorming XWiki Favorites
Well two reasons, one is that for the watchlist, which will show you a list
of all the pages and spaces you are watching, is a sort of favorites, but
what if you want to navigate to a place over and over again and it is buried
down in a space someplace? Then what if you don't want to watch it and be
notified for some reason, and then lastly what if you want to save a
description so you can look at your favorites and pick "Oh that WebHome".
Ollie
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Can I filter on the user that created the record
of the favorites class?
Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature that
basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
Cf http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
,
it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
You might still want to add that description field though...
Guillaume
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a
GREAT idea.
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New subject: [xwiki-users] Brainstorming XWiki Favorites
Well two reasons, one is that for the watchlist, which will show you a list
of all the pages and spaces you are watching, is a sort of favorites, but
what if you want to navigate to a place over and over again and it is
buried
down in a space someplace? Then what if you don't want to watch it and be
notified for some reason, and then lastly what if you want to save a
description so you can look at your favorites and pick "Oh that WebHome".
Indeed. I'd still advise looking at how the watchlist feature is implemented
since it somehow manages to store user preferences in their profiles and
you're going to need that feature in your implementation I guess...
Not sure whether there's been any recent discussion on creating easy-to)use
user profiles extension points - though this kind of use cases (as well as a
bunch of others) show they're needed. I think there is a way to access them
right now without changing the UserClassSheet (maybe by adding new kind of
objects to user profile pages...)
Re your implementation, I'd advise having the list of favorited pages stored
in one (or many) objects attached to the user profile page of the current
user and writing a panel taking the currently logged user UserName as a
parameter, retrieving the data from those favorite objects stored on his
user page and displaying their values in the panel ...
Guillaume
Ollie
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Hi Mike,
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
Can I filter on the user that created the record
of the favorites class?
Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature that
basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
Cf ,
it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
You might still want to add that description field though...
Guillaume
>
> Ollie
>
> Wright, Philip wrote:
> >
> > Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
like
> a
> > GREAT idea.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip Wright
> >
> >
> >
>
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Ok so I can't count, that's three reasons.
I created a Favorites class in XWiki with three properties, Name(string),
Link(string) and Description(textarea).
I create a sheet and template and attached the Favorites Object to the
template.
I then created a page with
#set ($hql = ", BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName
and obj.className='XWiki.FavoritesClass' and
obj.name<>'XWiki.FavoritesClassTemplate'")
#set ($favs= $xwiki.searchDocuments($hql))
#if ($favs.size() > 0)
#foreach ($fav in $favs)
* [${fav.Name}>{$fav.Link}]
#end
#else
#info("There are no Favorites in this wiki!")
#end
and since I had not yet created the first Favorite it showed No Favorites in
this wiki. Cool
Then I went back to the XWiki Favorites Class and created a new document and
populated the Name Property, Link Property and Description properties and
went back to the page with the search above...
it shows the literal fav.Name in the name of the link and Link as the URI
for the target.
if $fav the FavoritesClass object? I am guessing not.
Mike Oliver wrote:
Well two reasons, one is that for the watchlist, which will show you a
list of all the pages and spaces you are watching, is a sort of favorites,
but what if you want to navigate to a place over and over again and it is
buried down in a space someplace? Then what if you don't want to watch it
and be notified for some reason, and then lastly what if you want to save
a description so you can look at your favorites and pick "Oh that
WebHome".
Ollie
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
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Hi Mike,
Can I filter on the user that created the record
of the favorites class?
Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature that
basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
Cf http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
,
it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
You might still want to add that description field though...
Guillaume
Ollie
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Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
like a
GREAT idea.
Philip Wright
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Ok so I can't count, that's three reasons.
That's the benefit of iterative designs, you've been able to correct
yourself in no time ;-)
I created a Favorites class in XWiki with three
properties, Name(string),
Link(string) and Description(textarea).
I create a sheet and template and attached the Favorites Object to the
template.
I then created a page with
#set ($hql = ", BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName
and obj.className='XWiki.FavoritesClass' and
obj.name<>'XWiki.FavoritesClassTemplate'")
#set ($favs= $xwiki.searchDocuments($hql))
#if ($favs.size() > 0)
#foreach ($fav in $favs)
* [${fav.Name}>{$fav.Link}]
#end
#else
#info("There are no Favorites in this wiki!")
#end
and since I had not yet created the first Favorite it showed No Favorites
in
this wiki. Cool
Ok, I hadn't understood that those favorites were the same for all users, I
thought they would be user-specific, hence my previous remarks.
Then I went back to the XWiki Favorites Class and
created a new document
and
populated the Name Property, Link Property and Description properties and
went back to the page with the search above...
it shows the literal fav.Name in the name of the link and Link as the URI
for the target.
if $fav the FavoritesClass object? I am guessing not.
From figure 23 on that page :
http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss?l=XWiki it seems you're
missing the $xwiki.getDocument() API call in your code :
#foreach ($todo in $todos)
#set ($todoDoc = $xwiki.getDocument($todo))
#set ($todoObj = $todoDoc.getObject("XWiki.TodoClass"))
[$todoObj.Description>$todo] | $todoObj.Assignee | $todoObj.TargetDate |
$todoObj.Status
#end
Hope this helps,
Guillaume
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Well two reasons, one is that for the watchlist, which will show you a
list of all the pages and spaces you are watching, is a sort of
favorites,
but what if you want to navigate to a place over
and over again and it is
buried down in a space someplace? Then what if you don't want to watch
it
and be notified for some reason, and then lastly
what if you want to save
a description so you can look at your favorites and pick "Oh that
WebHome".
Ollie
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>> Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites
class?
>>
>
> Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature that
> basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
>
> Cf
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
> ,
> it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
>
> You might still want to add that description field though...
>
> Guillaume
>
>
>
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>> Wright, Philip wrote:
>> >
>> > Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
>> like a
>> > GREAT idea.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Philip Wright
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>>
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Good ideas, I followed the ToDo example and created a Favorites space to
store the documents but agree better to store them by user. I guess I can
get it working in the ToDo model first and then move the location of the
documents and change the filter accordingly.
Our messages passed on the wires where Posted my first pass.
Ollie
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Indeed. I'd still advise looking at how the watchlist feature is
implemented
since it somehow manages to store user preferences in their profiles and
you're going to need that feature in your implementation I guess...
Not sure whether there's been any recent discussion on creating
easy-to)use
user profiles extension points - though this kind of use cases (as well as
a
bunch of others) show they're needed. I think there is a way to access
them
right now without changing the UserClassSheet (maybe by adding new kind of
objects to user profile pages...)
Re your implementation, I'd advise having the list of favorited pages
stored
in one (or many) objects attached to the user profile page of the current
user and writing a panel taking the currently logged user UserName as a
parameter, retrieving the data from those favorite objects stored on his
user page and displaying their values in the panel ...
Guillaume
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Ollie
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
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Hi Mike,
> Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites
class?
basically already is XWiki's favorites system
for individual users ?
Cf
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
,
it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
You might still want to add that description field though...
Guillaume
>
> Ollie
>
> Wright, Philip wrote:
> >
> > Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
like
> a
> > GREAT idea.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Philip Wright
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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>
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By the way, 2 additional ideas :
- You could add a static list property (with [1,2,3,4,5] as allowed
values) to rank the importance / interest of favorites and display them
according to their ranking on the page (thru a hql sort query)
- Don't forget to add your application on http://code.xwiki.org/ once a
first working version is out ;-)
Guillaume
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Mike Oliver <moliver(a)corenttech.com> wrote:
Good ideas, I followed the ToDo example and created a Favorites space to
store the documents but agree better to store them by user. I guess I can
get it working in the ToDo model first and then move the location of the
documents and change the filter accordingly.
Our messages passed on the wires where Posted my first pass.
Ollie
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Indeed. I'd still advise looking at how the watchlist feature is
implemented
since it somehow manages to store user preferences in their profiles and
you're going to need that feature in your implementation I guess...
Not sure whether there's been any recent discussion on creating
easy-to)use
user profiles extension points - though this kind of use cases (as well
as
a
bunch of others) show they're needed. I think there is a way to access
them
right now without changing the UserClassSheet (maybe by adding new kind
of
objects to user profile pages...)
Re your implementation, I'd advise having the list of favorited pages
stored
in one (or many) objects attached to the user profile page of the current
user and writing a panel taking the currently logged user UserName as a
parameter, retrieving the data from those favorite objects stored on his
user page and displaying their values in the panel ...
Guillaume
> Ollie
>
> Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> >
> >> Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites
> class?
> >>
> >
> > Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature
> that
> > basically already is XWiki's favorites system for individual users ?
> >
> > Cf
> http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
> > ,
> > it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
> >
> > You might still want to add that description field though...
> >
> > Guillaume
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Ollie
> >>
> >> Wright, Philip wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
> like
> >> a
> >> > GREAT idea.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Philip Wright
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Yes actually I do plan on moving it and making it by user, but thought I best
get it working first, picollo passo
yes I guess I did miss somethign thanks.
Ollie
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Ok so I can't count, that's three reasons.
That's the benefit of iterative designs, you've been able to correct
yourself in no time ;-)
I created a Favorites class in XWiki with three
properties, Name(string),
Link(string) and Description(textarea).
I create a sheet and template and attached the Favorites Object to the
template.
I then created a page with
#set ($hql = ", BaseObject as obj where obj.name=doc.fullName
and obj.className='XWiki.FavoritesClass' and
obj.name<>'XWiki.FavoritesClassTemplate'")
#set ($favs= $xwiki.searchDocuments($hql))
#if ($favs.size() > 0)
#foreach ($fav in $favs)
* [${fav.Name}>{$fav.Link}]
#end
#else
#info("There are no Favorites in this wiki!")
#end
and since I had not yet created the first Favorite it showed No Favorites
in
this wiki. Cool
Ok, I hadn't understood that those favorites were the same for all users,
I
thought they would be user-specific, hence my previous remarks.
Then I went back to the XWiki Favorites Class and
created a new document
and
populated the Name Property, Link Property and Description properties and
went back to the page with the search above...
it shows the literal fav.Name in the name of the link and Link as the URI
for the target.
if $fav the FavoritesClass object? I am guessing not.
From figure 23 on that page :
http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss?l=XWiki it seems
you're
missing the $xwiki.getDocument() API call in your code :
#foreach ($todo in $todos)
#set ($todoDoc = $xwiki.getDocument($todo))
#set ($todoObj = $todoDoc.getObject("XWiki.TodoClass"))
[$todoObj.Description>$todo] | $todoObj.Assignee | $todoObj.TargetDate |
$todoObj.Status
#end
Hope this helps,
Guillaume
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Well two reasons, one is that for the watchlist, which will show you a
list of all the pages and spaces you are watching, is a sort of
favorites,
but what if you want to navigate to a place over
and over again and it
is
buried down in a space someplace? Then what if
you don't want to watch
it
and be notified for some reason, and then lastly
what if you want to
save
a description so you can look at your favorites
and pick "Oh that
WebHome".
Ollie
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>> Can I filter on the user that created the record of the favorites
class?
>>
>
> Sure... But why don't you have your users use the Watchlist feature
that
> basically already is XWiki's favorites
system for individual users ?
>
> Cf
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/WatchlistApplication
> ,
> it's bundled with all recent versions of XWiki Enterprise AFAIR ...
>
> You might still want to add that description field though...
>
> Guillaume
>
>
>
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>> Wright, Philip wrote:
>> >
>> > Idea is to allow the user to create the description? If so sounds
>> like a
>> > GREAT idea.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Philip Wright
>> >
>> >
>> >
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