[xwiki-users] XWiki vs Xwiki or brandname vs forename
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki. For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters. There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc. So, when I write about Xwiki: 1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else... What do you think? Valdis
On 05/29/2013 12:38 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš wrote:
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki.
For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters.
There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc.
So, when I write about Xwiki:
1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else...
What do you think? Valdis
The official name has always been XWiki, never Xwiki. I've often seen Xwiki and xWiki, though, mostly because of the first two reasons you present, and also because most word processors auto-correct "two capital letters", which in most cases is wrong. I'm not sure how many people know how to undo that behavior. Still, I never thought that it is a big enough issue to point it out to people explicitly, hoping that they'll learn by example. However, I do try to correct any wrong spelling in editable public place, like wikipedia and the xwiki.org farm. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu
Hi vaL, (sorry I'm too lazy to write your full name ;)) see below On May 29, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki.
For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters.
There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc.
So, when I write about Xwiki:
1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else...
What do you think?
I'm not sure I understand your point. What's the question? :) If your point is just that people will make mistakes writing XWiki then yes we've experienced that. Thanks -Vincent
Hi Valdis, When I commented on your website saying that you spelled XWiki wrong, in my mind I was just trying to correct you. I expect at least people from our community to know how to spell it right. If you work with XWiki and you are an active member of this community than you part of this 'family' and you too should promote doing/writing things the 'right' way. Thanks, Caty On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi vaL,
(sorry I'm too lazy to write your full name ;))
see below
On May 29, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki.
For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters.
There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc.
So, when I write about Xwiki:
1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else...
What do you think?
I'm not sure I understand your point. What's the question? :)
If your point is just that people will make mistakes writing XWiki then yes we've experienced that.
Thanks -Vincent
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Hi, Ecaterina! I changed all occurrences in my website to "XWiki". Russians would say "безобразно, но единообразно" ("ugly, but consistently"). ;-P Valdis
Hi Valdis,
When I commented on your website saying that you spelled XWiki wrong, in my mind I was just trying to correct you. I expect at least people from our community to know how to spell it right. If you work with XWiki and you are an active member of this community than you part of this 'family' and you too should promote doing/writing things the 'right' way.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi vaL,
(sorry I'm too lazy to write your full name ;))
see below
On May 29, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki.
For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters.
There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc.
So, when I write about Xwiki:
1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else...
What do you think?
I'm not sure I understand your point. What's the question? :)
If your point is just that people will make mistakes writing XWiki then yes we've experienced that.
Thanks -Vincent
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K Valdis :) Consistency is never ugly. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi, Ecaterina! I changed all occurrences in my website to "XWiki".
Russians would say "безобразно, но единообразно" ("ugly, but consistently").
;-P Valdis
Hi Valdis,
When I commented on your website saying that you spelled XWiki wrong, in my mind I was just trying to correct you. I expect at least people from our community to know how to spell it right. If you work with XWiki and you are an active member of this community than you part of this 'family' and you too should promote doing/writing things the 'right' way.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi vaL,
(sorry I'm too lazy to write your full name ;))
see below
On May 29, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Valdis Vītoliņš <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm just curious about brandname such as XWiki versus "generic" forename such as Xwiki.
For example in languages I know (Latvian, English, Russian) any forename (given name for person or dog, city or ship name, etc.) starts with capital and then, if not all characters are capital, it follows with small letters.
There are brandnames (mostly intentionally, to differ from "generic" name) this rule is not followed: XWiki, iOS, PiTiVi, etc.
So, when I write about Xwiki:
1. I don't know it is spelled XWiki, 2. I'm too lazy to bother, 3. I intentionally spell it Xwiki, to not add disclaimer, that iOS or XWiki or ... is a registered trademark (if is), 4. something else...
What do you think?
I'm not sure I understand your point. What's the question? :)
If your point is just that people will make mistakes writing XWiki then yes we've experienced that.
Thanks -Vincent
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Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Valdis Vītoliņš -
Vincent Massol