Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Rights Management UI
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)? I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances? I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions. Thanks, Caty
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion. I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal. Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back. WDYT ? Denis
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed. I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space PNG for the filters: collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)? Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much? Thanks, Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 15:41, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters: collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
Not sure we really need all these. What is important for me is: - local, global, all user type, with local by default - local, inherited, implied right - user/group name filtering The rest could be convenient, but it also takes unnecessary horizontal space, which is annoying IMO.
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column.
No problem if we use only the .js without de livetable macro.
Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Yes, it will probably be so.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)?
I have made recent fixes for that in the livetable.js, so this is not a problem.
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much?
Doesn't this also include implicit settings when no right has been set anywhere ? Denis Thanks,
Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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Hey guys, Let me apologize in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest question you've seen in a while. I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been playing around with the platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site is currently a disaster. Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from the main (noddle.myxwiki.org) page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if it's an artifact of me messing around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up with a solution that's better than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle... Thanks in advance. Best, Philip Brunetti
It would appear that you have set up a custom skin and accidently removed the button. http://noddle.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/?skin=toucan shows the login button. Caleb Philip Brunetti wrote:
Hey guys,
Let me apologize
No need, the problems which only happen on a Tuesday every other month are the hard ones ;)
in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest question you've seen in a while.
I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been playing around with the platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site is currently a disaster.
Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from the main (noddle.myxwiki.org) page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if it's an artifact of me messing around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up with a solution that's better than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle...
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Philip Brunetti
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On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:41 AM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
It would appear that you have set up a custom skin and accidently removed the button. http://noddle.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/?skin=toucan shows the login button.
Caleb
Philip Brunetti wrote:
Hey guys,
Let me apologize
No need, the problems which only happen on a Tuesday every other month are the hard ones ;)
And next time please create a new thread and don't hijack existing ones ;) Thanks -Vincent
in advance for asking what is probably the dumbest question you've seen in a while.
I'm hosting a wiki: noddle.myxwiki.org on your community farm. I've been playing around with the platform, trying to get a feel for the software, and right now the site is currently a disaster.
Anyways. I'm not sure why, but the login/logout button is missing from the main (noddle.myxwiki.org) page. I'm not sure if I have to manually insert a link somewhere, or if it's an artifact of me messing around with the permissions, but I've spent many hours trying to come up with a solution that's better than logging into the myxwiki.org page and navigating to noddle...
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Philip Brunetti
> It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For
right set
at > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin. > > Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to
avoid
duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user
profile's
variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters: collapsed:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
expanded:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
Not sure we really need all these. What is important for me is: - local, global, all user type, with local by default - local, inherited, implied right - user/group name filtering
See: Collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... Expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
The rest could be convenient, but it also takes unnecessary horizontal space, which is annoying IMO.
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column.
No problem if we use only the .js without de livetable macro.
Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Yes, it will probably be so.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)?
I have made recent fixes for that in the livetable.js, so this is not a problem.
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much?
Doesn't this also include implicit settings when no right has been set anywhere ?
IMO, when no right has been set is a special case, the Default values. We could see it as implicit, but actually I think they are more like inherited (from the code values :P ). Another question: The local source of inheritance (if a right is allowed to anyone else at the same level, it is implicitly disallowed for any others) is gonna be seen as implicit or locally set? For example allow for evalica on view right is going on the "locally set", but implicit deny on view right for UnregisteredUsers and RegisteredUsers is going where? (locally set or implicit) Practical is only for this level, so it's local. But it is not set explicitly by the user, so it must by implicit. Thanks, Caty
Denis
Some more comments: - The last icon-labeled field (currently depicted by a key) could be "Other rights", not "Advanced" - The key does not suggest "other rights" (nor advanced) to me. Maybe use a word instead of an icon ("More..", "Application rights")? - I'm not sure the folder with a user in it is a good representation for a group. Usually a labeled folder stands for a space with a certain purpose. Why not use the group.gif icon (two users)? - I propose to put an explanatory word next to each icon in the dropdown. There is enough room for it and I think it would help a lot. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin.
Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this proposal will be accepted/voted. I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3. Raluca.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters: collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks, Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
Thanks, Caty _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Raluca Stavro <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
> It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set at > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin. > > Denis.
Hi Denis,
"Something" like this:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this proposal will be accepted/voted. I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3.
Raluca.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Spac Raluca.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters: collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks, Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Raluca Stavro <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Raluca Stavro <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 13:46, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:19, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 09:01, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:00, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It will if it display the inheritance source in a column. For right set > at > > current level this column could even precise what inheritance has been > > overwritten, both in terms of allowance and origin. > > > > Denis. > > > Hi Denis, > > "Something" like this: > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Yes, "something" like that. I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights. Maybe the menu should be horizontal in the advanced interface, I do not know. Also add some hyperlinks to upper level in the column explaining inheritance. And put the highlight of changes over the rest of the row (includes name and inheritance)
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
About:
I would have expected a "back to basic" button in place of "advanced, and the removal of the basic interface to avoid duplicating basic rights
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
This removal of the basic interface will be set from the user profile's variables (if it has advanced type)?
No, just removed when the advanced interface is shown using the advanced button, like you have done.
I mean if the user is advanced, all the rows will be presented in advances?
No, the only thing I proposed is that user that are not set "Advanced user" in their profile, will not be presented the advanced interface link, and will never see extended rights.
I'm asking because I think the collapsed view is great to see changes up in the table, where you don't care the advanced status of those rights.
I completely agree. Advanced interface is for understanding and fixing deep complex stuffs
WDYT ? Is this interesting ?
it's nice :P I would love to see some other opinions.
Yes, could it be possible for you to fix the interactive version to hide the basics and also to have hover and click work as expected. I think it will helps in receiving more feed back with causing confusion.
Raluca offered to help me fix the interaction.
I fixed some interaction issues. There are more to do, but I think that this is enough for now. We will implement it right if this proposal will be accepted/voted. I tested the interaction only on FF 3.6.3.
Raluca.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Spac
(Wrong copy-paste) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space Raluca.
Raluca.
I found the result really well suited now. There is just some improvement in color contrast, icons aspect, and so on that should be applied if we get approval for this proposal.
Once you have fixed the sample, I think that a summary page (resume of our reflexion, and containing only the final proposal) and than a vote thread could be appropriate to receive feedback from other committers, since the size of this thread could be pushing back.
Yes, a summary+vote is needed.
I made a version with pagination and filters added. http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
PNG for the filters: collapsed: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa... expanded: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights43Proposa...
What do you think? Could this filters be helpful? Are too powerful/complex/useless?
From an implementation point of view, can a livetable have more than one filter per a column. Anyway this will be a custom livetable, because we also need to integrate the "add user" part and the "save/reset" buttons.
Also, from an implementation point of view, should we enable multiselect (ex. to select multiple rights)?
Obs. Right -> Sources -> Implicit refer to the rights that come from the setting of another right (example: admin means implicit view+edit+delete+comment; creator means implicit delete). Would this filter option be useful or it is too much?
Thanks, Caty
WDYT ?
Denis
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http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space Thanks Raluca. Tomorrow I will send the mail with the proposal, after I make some changes Sergiu suggested. Caty
This is better, but the tooltips stay while the menu is open. (I have check Safari not FF) On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 19:11, Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]> wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
Thanks Raluca. Tomorrow I will send the mail with the proposal, after I make some changes Sergiu suggested.
By the way, I think after reviewing Raluca improvements that the "Advanced:" title is not require, and just eat up some useful space. If you agree, I propose to have it removed. Denis
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Caleb James DeLisle -
Denis Gervalle -
Ecaterina Valica -
Philip Brunetti -
Raluca Stavro -
Sergiu Dumitriu -
Vincent Massol