[xwiki-users] Usability Question - Blog Edit
Hi Maybe I just don't get it, but it seems to me that on the blog level the usability, meaning to edit the document, suddenly breakes with the usual way to do it (Inline from). Is it a feature or a bug? Cheers, Squirrel
Hi Squirrel,
Maybe I just don't get it, but it seems to me that on the blog level the usability, meaning to edit the document, suddenly breakes with the usual way to do it (Inline from). Is it a feature or a bug?
Do you mean on a blog article page (bin/view/Blog/SomeArticle) or on the Blog homepage itself (bin/view/Blog/WebHome) ? On Blog.WebHome there's no inline edition because the page holds the code required to display the articles. To edit a given article you need to go to that article page by clicking on the permalink poiting towards it, where you can access the usual inline edition mode again. Guillaume
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Squirrel,
Do you mean on a blog article page (bin/view/Blog/SomeArticle) or on the Blog homepage itself (bin/view/Blog/WebHome) ? On Blog.WebHome there's no inline edition because the page holds the code required to display the articles. To edit a given article you need to go to that article page by clicking on the permalink poiting towards it, where you can access the usual inline edition mode again.
Guillaume
Hi Guillaume I mean on the blog article itself. There you can't edit the page with "Edit => Wiki / WYSIWYG" but only with "Edit => Inline form". When you try to edit the blog article itself with the Wiki or WYSIWYG editor you see only "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")". Do you know what I mean? Squirrel
Squirrel wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Squirrel,
Do you mean on a blog article page (bin/view/Blog/SomeArticle) or on the Blog homepage itself (bin/view/Blog/WebHome) ? On Blog.WebHome there's no inline edition because the page holds the code required to display the articles. To edit a given article you need to go to that article page by clicking on the permalink poiting towards it, where you can access the usual inline edition mode again.
Guillaume
Hi Guillaume
I mean on the blog article itself. There you can't edit the page with "Edit => Wiki / WYSIWYG" but only with "Edit => Inline form". When you try to edit the blog article itself with the Wiki or WYSIWYG editor you see only "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")".
Do you know what I mean?
Definitely a feature. This is what makes inline editing work. Why would you like to edit the wiki content? If you want to alter the layout of all blog articles, then you should edit the XWiki.ArticleClassSheet document, as that is the "sheet" defining how all blog articles look. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
Squirrel wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Squirrel,
Do you mean on a blog article page (bin/view/Blog/SomeArticle) or on the Blog homepage itself (bin/view/Blog/WebHome) ? On Blog.WebHome there's no inline edition because the page holds the code required to display the articles. To edit a given article you need to go to that article page by clicking on the permalink poiting towards it, where you can access the usual inline edition mode again.
Guillaume
Hi Guillaume
I mean on the blog article itself. There you can't edit the page with "Edit => Wiki / WYSIWYG" but only with "Edit => Inline form". When you try to edit the blog article itself with the Wiki or WYSIWYG editor you see only "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")".
Do you know what I mean?
Definitely a feature. This is what makes inline editing work.
Why would you like to edit the wiki content? If you want to alter the layout of all blog articles, then you should edit the XWiki.ArticleClassSheet document, as that is the "sheet" defining how all blog articles look. -- Sergiu Dumitriu <http://purl.org/net/sergiu/>
I just thought you can edit a blog entry the same way you can edit the frontpage. If you do so on the frontpage you don't get the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" or whatsoever message, but you can edit the content in 3 ways: Wiki, WYSIWYG or Inline. I thought this must be possible with a blog entry too, so it shouldn't just show "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")", but the content of the blog entry. If you would like to change the look of the blog entry (the surroundings) then go specifically to the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" and change it... Is that wrong thinking?
Squirrel wrote:
I mean on the blog article itself. There you can't edit the page with "Edit => Wiki / WYSIWYG" but only with "Edit => Inline form". When you try to edit the blog article itself with the Wiki or WYSIWYG editor you see only "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")".
Do you know what I mean?
This is feature of advanced editing mode. See http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing
After clicking on the "Edit" button in simple mode, XWiki will automatically edit the page in the basic mode (WYSIWYG or Wiki) for standard pages and in Form mode for pages which include Forms (ie pages using the #includeForm() macro).
-- Artem Melentyev
Hi,
I just thought you can edit a blog entry the same way you can edit the frontpage. If you do so on the frontpage you don't get the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" or whatsoever message, but you can edit the content in 3 ways: Wiki, WYSIWYG or Inline. I thought this must be possible with a blog entry too, so it shouldn't just show "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")", but the content of the blog entry. If you would like to change the look of the blog entry (the surroundings) then go specifically to the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" and change it...
Is that wrong thinking?
No. However, one thing you're forgetting is that you're thinking as an advanced user right here. When you're an user using simple mode (you can change the setting on your profile page), you are presented with only the edit button, without any fancy options. Upon clicking on the button on any page, it will automatically select the relevant edition mode. Meaning that for most users, they'll click on "edit" when seeing the blog article and they will be presented with the right thing immediately. Actually, when you click directly on "edit" in advanced mode (instead of getting in the drop-down list) it automatically goes to the right action :-) Guillaume
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I just thought you can edit a blog entry the same way you can edit the frontpage. If you do so on the frontpage you don't get the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" or whatsoever message, but you can edit the content in 3 ways: Wiki, WYSIWYG or Inline. I thought this must be possible with a blog entry too, so it shouldn't just show "#includeForm("XWiki.ArticleClassSheet")", but the content of the blog entry. If you would like to change the look of the blog entry (the surroundings) then go specifically to the "XWiki.ArticleClassSheet" and change it...
Is that wrong thinking?
No. However, one thing you're forgetting is that you're thinking as an advanced user right here. When you're an user using simple mode (you can change the setting on your profile page), you are presented with only the edit button, without any fancy options. Upon clicking on the button on any page, it will automatically select the relevant edition mode. Meaning that for most users, they'll click on "edit" when seeing the blog article and they will be presented with the right thing immediately.
Actually, when you click directly on "edit" in advanced mode (instead of getting in the drop-down list) it automatically goes to the right action :-)
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Doh! I'm sorry about that guys. I really should read more in the first place... :-(
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