[xwiki-users] [Brainstorming] XWiki 5.x cycle
Dear XWiki lovers ;), We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan 2014). * 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and "Polishing" * 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality" So what would you like to see in the coming year? You can suggest both general themes and specific items. Thanks -Vincent
Hi, Vincent, My 10 coins to the suggested topic :-) 1. New Access Rights management system. There are a lot of weak points already known. Probably, it's time to review this. 2. Second level XWiki virtualization http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-207 3. Add WYSIWYG's editor logic while adding the link Space -> Page -> Anchor on the page http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-4084 and the same in XEM Environment: Workspace/Virtual Wiki -> Space -> Page -> Anchor http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7483 4. WebDAV access to deleted attachments http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6989 5. Rebuild Translation System and add possibility to translate not only page content, but objects' content (and field names) also. 6. Evolve filestorage system from "experimental" to all-kind-production-ready and make it more or less comprehensive: - for example, add possibility of XWiki clustering and automatic attachments synchronization while FS is on. - to configure path to store attachments for each XWiki/virtual wiki/workspace/space separetly. - fix current bugs (like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6917) and probably add some other fatures :-) 7. Smooth upgrade system (to make it look more like linux upgrades): upgrade AND KEEP all XWiki customization with minimal manual config files comparison and reediting of customized pages inside XWiki. 8. Add Space -> Subspace -> Page logic to XWiki hierarchy to build "trees" instead of "horizontal" set of spaces. 9. Extend TOC macro to logic: ...wiki1:Space1.Page1, wiki2:Space2.Page2... to include TOCs of separate pages inside current TOC. 10. XWiki Native support for mobile users (Skins, ColorThemes for all kind of mobile users bundled with XE/XEM) Hope it helps :-) Kind Regards, Dmitry Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:58:04 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Dear XWiki lovers ;),
We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan 2014).
* 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and "Polishing"
* 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality"
So what would you like to see in the coming year?
You can suggest both general themes and specific items.
Thanks
-Vincent
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Hi Dmitry, Thanks for your inputs! See below. On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, Vincent,
My 10 coins to the suggested topic :-)
1. New Access Rights management system. There are a lot of weak points already known. Probably, it's time to review this.
Have you been able to play with it already? Would be great to provide feedback and details. I'm sure Denis would love some feedback.
2. Second level XWiki virtualization http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-207
3. Add WYSIWYG's editor logic while adding the link Space -> Page -> Anchor on the page http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-4084
and the same in XEM Environment: Workspace/Virtual Wiki -> Space -> Page -> Anchor http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7483
4. WebDAV access to deleted attachments http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6989
So you're using XWiki WebDAV feature ATM?
5. Rebuild Translation System and add possibility to translate not only page content, but objects' content (and field names) also.
Just on this point, we're planning to work on this in XE 4.3 in the coming month.
6. Evolve filestorage system from "experimental" to all-kind-production-ready and make it more or less comprehensive: - for example, add possibility of XWiki clustering and automatic attachments synchronization while FS is on. - to configure path to store attachments for each XWiki/virtual wiki/workspace/space separetly. - fix current bugs (like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6917) and probably add some other fatures :-)
Yeah I also think we need Caleb to work a bit on this so that we could call it production-ready ;)
7. Smooth upgrade system (to make it look more like linux upgrades): upgrade AND KEEP all XWiki customization with minimal manual config files comparison and reediting of customized pages inside XWiki.
Yep, we're working on this one (XAR upgrades). You should see some first version with XE 4.2 when it's released next week. Next step is to tackle WAR and config file upgrades indeed.
8. Add Space -> Subspace -> Page logic to XWiki hierarchy to build "trees" instead of "horizontal" set of spaces.
9. Extend TOC macro to logic: ...wiki1:Space1.Page1, wiki2:Space2.Page2... to include TOCs of separate pages inside current TOC.
10. XWiki Native support for mobile users (Skins, ColorThemes for all kind of mobile users bundled with XE/XEM)
Ludovic has a pull request for improving mobile skin support for XE 4.3 but probably not to the extent you're interesting in at the moment. Thanks, keep the ideas coming. No promise that they'll be implemented but the more people who want the same thing the more weight it has. And developers are reading this! -Vincent
Hope it helps :-)
Kind Regards,
Dmitry
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:58:04 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Dear XWiki lovers ;),
We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan 2014).
* 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and "Polishing"
* 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality"
So what would you like to see in the coming year?
You can suggest both general themes and specific items.
Thanks
-Vincent
Kind regards,
Dmitry WebDAV access to deleted attachments
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dmitry,
Thanks for your inputs! See below.
On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, Vincent,
My 10 coins to the suggested topic :-)
1. New Access Rights management system. There are a lot of weak points already known. Probably, it's time to review this.
Have you been able to play with it already? Would be great to provide feedback and details. I'm sure Denis would love some feedback.
Andreas too ;) Do you actually know there is a new right management system ? It's not clear in your question if you talk about introducing a new right management system or using more the new one.
2. Second level XWiki virtualization http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-207
3. Add WYSIWYG's editor logic while adding the link Space -> Page -> Anchor on the page http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-4084
and the same in XEM Environment: Workspace/Virtual Wiki -> Space -> Page -> Anchor http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7483
4. WebDAV access to deleted attachments http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6989
So you're using XWiki WebDAV feature ATM?
5. Rebuild Translation System and add possibility to translate not only page content, but objects' content (and field names) also.
Just on this point, we're planning to work on this in XE 4.3 in the coming month.
Except for the object content translation part which has more to do with the model and is not going to change very soon. Note that fields names are already translatable, for this you can use the id <class full name>_<field name> like in "Blog.BlogClass_title" for the title field name of a blog object.
6. Evolve filestorage system from "experimental" to all-kind-production-ready and make it more or less comprehensive: - for example, add possibility of XWiki clustering and automatic attachments synchronization while FS is on. - to configure path to store attachments for each XWiki/virtual wiki/workspace/space separetly. - fix current bugs (like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6917) and probably add some other fatures :-)
Yeah I also think we need Caleb to work a bit on this so that we could call it production-ready ;)
7. Smooth upgrade system (to make it look more like linux upgrades): upgrade AND KEEP all XWiki customization with minimal manual config files comparison and reediting of customized pages inside XWiki.
Yep, we're working on this one (XAR upgrades). You should see some first version with XE 4.2 when it's released next week. Next step is to tackle WAR and config file upgrades indeed.
Note that for the server side (WAR and configuration) you have the Debian package (see http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationViaAPT) that can help a lot since apt/dpkg is taking care of configuration file comparison/merging. But that's only for Debian based system of course. For the XAR part as Vincent said we are working on it and you get a first version of an install/upgrade Wyzard for it in the coming 4.2.
8. Add Space -> Subspace -> Page logic to XWiki hierarchy to build "trees" instead of "horizontal" set of spaces.
9. Extend TOC macro to logic: ...wiki1:Space1.Page1, wiki2:Space2.Page2... to include TOCs of separate pages inside current TOC.
10. XWiki Native support for mobile users (Skins, ColorThemes for all kind of mobile users bundled with XE/XEM)
Ludovic has a pull request for improving mobile skin support for XE 4.3 but probably not to the extent you're interesting in at the moment.
Thanks, keep the ideas coming. No promise that they'll be implemented but the more people who want the same thing the more weight it has. And developers are reading this! -Vincent
Hope it helps :-)
Kind Regards,
Dmitry
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:58:04 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Dear XWiki lovers ;),
We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan 2014).
* 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and "Polishing"
* 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality"
So what would you like to see in the coming year?
You can suggest both general themes and specific items.
Thanks
-Vincent
Kind regards,
Dmitry WebDAV access to deleted attachments
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Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:20:14 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: Hi Dmitry,
Thanks for your inputs! See below.
On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, Vincent,
My 10 coins to the suggested topic :-)
1. New Access Rights management system. There are a lot of weak points already known. Probably, it's time to review this.
Have you been able to play with it already? Would be great to provide feedback and details. I'm sure Denis would love some feedback.
Going to do this in a couple of weeks on coming back to work. Hope to dig something interesting. :-)
2. Second level XWiki virtualization http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-207
3. Add WYSIWYG's editor logic while adding the link Space -> Page -> Anchor on the page http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-4084
and the same in XEM Environment: Workspace/Virtual Wiki -> Space -> Page -> Anchor http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7483
4. WebDAV access to deleted attachments http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6989
So you're using XWiki WebDAV feature ATM?
Not yet, I was playing with all the ways to manage large attachments and found this bug. Until FS is not officially production ready - this is not so important. I even guess, that if XWiki would have an WebDAV-like (or even better) attachment management system - there would be no need to use external tools in most cases.
5. Rebuild Translation System and add possibility to translate not only page content, but objects' content (and field names) also.
Just on this point, we're planning to work on this in XE 4.3 in the coming month.
6. Evolve filestorage system from "experimental" to all-kind-production-ready and make it more or less comprehensive: - for example, add possibility of XWiki clustering and automatic attachments synchronization while FS is on. - to configure path to store attachments for each XWiki/virtual wiki/workspace/space separetly. - fix current bugs (like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6917) and probably add some other fatures :-)
Yeah I also think we need Caleb to work a bit on this so that we could call it production-ready ;)
It would be excellent. :-)
7. Smooth upgrade system (to make it look more like linux upgrades): upgrade AND KEEP all XWiki customization with minimal manual config files comparison and reediting of customized pages inside XWiki.
Yep, we're working on this one (XAR upgrades). You should see some first version with XE 4.2 when it's released next week. Next step is to tackle WAR and config file upgrades indeed.
8. Add Space -> Subspace -> Page logic to XWiki hierarchy to build "trees" instead of "horizontal" set of spaces.
9. Extend TOC macro to logic: ...wiki1:Space1.Page1, wiki2:Space2.Page2... to include TOCs of separate pages inside current TOC.
10. XWiki Native support for mobile users (Skins, ColorThemes for all kind of mobile users bundled with XE/XEM)
Ludovic has a pull request for improving mobile skin support for XE 4.3 but probably not to the extent you're interesting in at the moment.
Thanks, keep the ideas coming. No promise that they'll be implemented but the more people who want the same thing the more weight it has. And developers are reading this! -Vincent
Hope it helps :-) Kind Regards, Dmitry
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:58:04 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
Dear XWiki lovers ;),
We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan 2014).
* 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and "Polishing"
* 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality"
So what would you like to see in the coming year?
You can suggest both general themes and specific items.
Thanks
-Vincent
Kind regards,
Dmitry WebDAV access to deleted attachments
Kind regards,
Dmitry
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