Tour - some problems: - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour Livetable; - Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel we still see Tour.WebHome So, we either: 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to be a technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content) 2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS selectors and steps) I would go with 1. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
Questions about the Homepage Tour: A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden - since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to get him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so nit sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we tried to limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but Tour could be something interesting just for Admins).
WDTY?
A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) B - No listed by default in the App panel
Thanks -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour :) but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more module structure when/if we will need.
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
wrote:
I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour
is a
solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module that could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the future we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, Customizing the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, since they could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases Panels, Web Templates, etc.)
xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we need to provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular actions and if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check the 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch every time you create a new subwiki. I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for 8.2, but we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’.
FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority thinks it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit harder to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the flavor wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff).
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily isolate it >> and other flavors can re-use it. > > Indeed that’s a good point. > > Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I would even put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of the Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help as xwiki-platform-help-syntax). > > WDYT?
Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not have a dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one.
So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour.
Thanks -Vincent
> Thanks > -Vincent > >> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> According to the new decided strategy in >>>> >>>
http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization
>>> , >>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In some cases, >>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available at build >>>> time. Where could we put it? >>>> >>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be added in >>> the >>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in >>>> xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, we >>> could >>>> have the following options: >>>> >>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours >>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours >>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours >>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like "help" >>> keyword >>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used for >>> future >>>> cases >>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a specific name >>> for >>>> tours. >>> >>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. >>> >>> The question is: >>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? >>> >>> My opinion: >>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only when the >>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of xwiki.org for >>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). >>> >>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main wiki and >>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it makes sense >>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). >>> >>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now I’d say >>> 1). >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alex
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