I don`t like having multiple icons for relatively the same purpose nor abusing the extra space we have in the top menu. What about joining the 2 icons (eye and bell) and using only the bell item for generic "notifications"? Reiterating: inside the dropdown of the bell icon (the dropdown shown in https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846/... ), just above the actual notifications stream, we would also have the 2 watchlist subscription options (i.e. the content of the dropdown shown in http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/p...) which would also show their states. This way we would also remove the "watch" actions from the more actions section and we would group notifications and page-watch-subscriptions in the same spot. IMO, it is not critical to always display the information that you are watching the current page and, just like we did in all the other previous skins, it is enough if you can obtain that information in one click (i.e. clicking on the bell icon and seeing the state of the watch buttons). In our previous skins (colibri, Flamingo v1, etc.) we had this information upon hovering the page, space or wiki, in the dropdown. And yes, I guess that at first, it will look a bit similar to proposal 3 ( http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/p... ), but with a bell icon and not a dedicated eye (watchlist) icon instead :) Thanks, Eduard On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
Eduard, what you propose is basically the proposal 3:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73/p...
What I propose, following the idea of Vincent, is the following:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H4.Wa...
An icon on the top bar when the page is watched (like the badge proposed previously), but the actions are still in the more actions menu.
Notifications can still be display on the top bar, under a menu with a "bell" icon, such as:
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s657/sh/e0f42388-9d3d-4253-83db-1986a2d8a846/...
WDYT?
Thanks,
2015-10-29 14:37 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Sounds nice. A notifications top menu button that, when expanded, would show the 2 options (to watch the current page or the current page and its children) and, below those options, we would add (in the coming future) actual notifications about modified documents that the user is watching.
Yes, but how do you show, using only one icon, that:
* the current document is in your watch list (state for the current document) * there are documents in your watch list that have been modified (notifications)
I agree that the top bar is the right place to signal notifications, but I'm not sure it's the best place to show some state related to the current document.
Thanks, Marius
Something like
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thefacebookinsider.com/wp-con...
but with the two options included.
Thanks, Eduard
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
I like it. What about the others?
2015-10-29 10:52 GMT+01:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
Hi Guillaume,
On 28 Oct 2015 at 16:18:49, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau ( [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
2015-10-28 15:32 GMT+01:00 [email protected] :
> Hi Guillaume, > > On 28 Oct 2015 at 14:57:27, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau ( > [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > I've just added a new iteration: > > >
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73#H1.bi...
> > Thanks. > > I still don’t like that it takes more vertical space and that it doesn’t > solve the general problem of notifications. >
There is a little variant with the "badge" displayed in the same line than the last modification date. It does not take more vertical space.
> > Why not implement the notification area in the top menu bar as discussed > in a few places? > > I don't understand how the state of the current page (is it watched by the current user or not?) is related to "notification". To me, notifications are relevant to inform the user that a new message has been received or that a watched page has been modified, but not to inform about the state of the current page. In other words, notifications are about "events", and not about "state”.
Yes you’re right, I’ve not used the right terminology. I was referring to a zone in the top menu bar on the right (but left of the existing search icon) where apps could contribute new icons, similar to what exists on OSX.
For example check the top right of http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17hbqlh3z3feijpg/ku-xlarge.jpg (they call it menu bar icons).
I like this better because: 1) It’s an UIX, it’s apps that can contribute to it 2) We have removed menu entries in the top bar and thus we have lots of available horizontal space 3) We define a standard for all apps
The idea would for apps to contribute notifications and states there.
WDYT?
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks,
> > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > > > 2015-10-13 19:55 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > > [email protected]>: > > > > > Re "watch parent and siblings?" it should be "Watch this page and its > > > children" IMO. Terminal pages should have only "Watch this page". If > you > > > want to watch the siblings also you can navigate to the parent page > (it's > > > not that hard). > > > > > > I don't think "Watch this wiki" should be displayed on every page. We > can > > > have it either on the Wiki Index (as an additional entry to the Actions > > > column) or on the Drawer where we list the wikis. > > > > > > So basically for a nested (non-terminal) page the user can perform two > > > actions: "Watch this page" and "Watch this page and its children". And > the > > > state can be one of "No watch", "Explicit watch", "Implicit watch" > (either > > > the wiki or one of its ancestor are being watched "with children"). > Maybe > > > we don't care about the difference between explicit and implicit > watch, in > > > which case there will be only two states. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > The other thread about the content menus re-organization has > deviated to > > > > talk about the watchlist, so I prefer to continue the discussion on > this > > > > new thread. > > > > > > > > I have made some mock-ups that you can see there: > > > > >
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/WatchListButtonsonXE73
> > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > > > Thanks,
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