There are several discussion in this thread: if the themes we want to bundle should be in Platform or Contrib, if we should bundle the other themes that were alternatives to the default Iceberg, and having a place to commit themes inside Contrib. For example the Cotton Candy theme does not look good with XS, but is a theme that could be used by some Flavor. It should be committed somewhere on Contrib. Then even if we commit themes in Platform, I would not put them in xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-ui, they would need their separate module, so xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-dawn, xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-snowdrop, etc. Let's say we mark them as optional modules, so they could be uninstalled, but it's a shame they could be installed only for 10.2+ Thanks, Caty On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2018, at 17:52, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2018, at 17:38, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 12 Mar 2018, at 16:50, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
Hello devs,
I want to publish additional Color Themes inside the Contrib organisation. These themes will be complementary to the xwiki-platform-flamingo-themes [1] module, and in the future we could move optional/deprecated themes from platform there (for example Kitty, Marina, etc).
I will want to contribute the Dawn (color-theme-dawn), Mandarin (color-theme-mandarin), Pantera (color-theme-pantera) and Snowdrop (color-theme-snowdrop) color themes.
What is the rationale for not having those themes bundled by default in XS and committed along with the other color themes in xwiki-platform? I feel it would be much simpler for users and as you said it’s small. So why not make it the simplest possible for users and not have them to find them out randomly on e.x.o and have to install the extension?
Currently there are 4 themes in xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-ui. They don't have individual modules, so there is no way to specify their dependencies. Some need Open Sans font, others do not. That's why first we would need to provide individual modules for each theme in order to correctly define them. Yes, we could do that in Platform, but why? On Contrib, I can define the Platform dependency to be XWiki 6.2, not 10.2, since there is nothing dependent on 10.2 in them and multiple users might use them. Also those 4 themes IMO should be moved outside Platform, or at least in their own modules and not being in the UI anymore. This would help knowing which theme is used / wanted.
I understand the new default Iceberg has sense to have a 10.2 dependency, and that's why this is committed in Platform see https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/pull/714 but I don't see why we would block the new themes to this version.
So the answer is modularity, dependencies and platform version. More details in the related thread [xwiki-devs] Color Themes Questions http://markmail.org/message/v75q2klsouu72mo7
Modularity has a very high cost. Since it means needing to release modules before we can bundle them. We’ve done some exceptions so far (Tour extension, CKEditor, etc) but I’m personally very against continuing in this direction. Anything that should be bundled by default in XS should come from the xwiki github org and be released with the same version.
There’s a reason why we stopped doing this years ago after trying it! It’s a major PITA. It means: * creating complex release plans * having to release external modules before we can release XS * having to test all variations * lots of complexities such as: no single release notes or complex to do release notes to find out and list all external changes in the XS release notes
So the only valid option for me if you want them in contrib is to decide that we’ll never want to bundle them in XS. I find that a bit of a pity and I liked that the were proposing several color themes by default to our users.
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks, Caty
Thanks -Vincent
I would need: - a repository on xwiki-contrib called "color-themes" https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/color-themes/ - a JIRA project called "COLORTHEMES" https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/COLORTHEMES/ I will use separate
Components
for each theme - username: evalica
A related mail thread is [xwiki-devs] Color Themes Questions http://markmail.org/message/v75q2klsouu72mo7 I prefer having the themes grouped on Contrib, but as individual
modules,
because the themes are related and small enough; while needing individual dependencies, active installs count and platform version independence.
Thanks, Caty
[1] https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/tree/master/ xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-flamingo/xwiki- platform-flamingo-themes