On big instances such as Wikipedia, you might not even know personally who is the user who contributed (but notifications might not scale in a Wikipedia instance anyway). 2017-10-04 15:13 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>:
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
2017-10-03 17:34 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected] :
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Thomas Mortagne < [email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
So your proposal focuses a lot more on the users instead of the apps (like facebook for example). It's OK for me, but I think the type icon (create, edit, comment, etc...) is too small compared to the user face.
Actually when I see these screenshot, my first impression is that the user has been modified :) Would it be nice to have the type icon bigger than the user face? To me, what happened is more important than who made it, but maybe it's only my feeling.
Pretty much the same comments on my side. I find weird to focus that much on users, I would have preferred images corresponding on the change made.
Depends on what we want to focus on and also on what are user's expectations. If you look at the majority of notifcations in the wild, the user is the focus. People want to know who did what, on what page, when.
But Facebook, for example, is a social network. It focuses on people by nature. On XWiki, it is not that evident. In the case of a knowledge base, you focus more on the content (the knowledge) than on the people. On xwiki.org, I guess you prefer seeing what's change instead of who made some changes...
If we define XWiki as a collaboration tool, then you collaborate to create something and so the focus is naturally more on that "something".
Just my 2 cents :)
Some for me, if "the majority of notifcations in the wild" only refer to social networks and communication tools then it's not a good input for a wiki IMO.
Nice work anyway, as usual :)
Guillaume
2017-10-03 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
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2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
> > > On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Another feedback/questions: > >> > >> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user profile? > >> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for page events > so that the user can see what was modified (as we have currently
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the AS)
> > > > * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I see I > created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say “2 hours ago”. > Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done? > > My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not by entity > anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events displayed for the > same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >
And you could also have different users grouped in the same composite event. So when you display the details, it would be nice to show which user made each event, and I see you have removed this info.
> > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent > >>>> from > >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Notification > sImprovements9x#HEventTypes > >>> > >>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to bottom and > stopped at the overview :) > >>> > >>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon per > combination of app type + event type. > >>> > >>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and one > for the event type. > >>> > >>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following events: > >>> * When a blog post is published > >>> * When a blog post is created > >>> * When a blog post is removed > >>> > >>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3 events. > >>> > >>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog app. A > lot of apps can have a RSS feed. > >>> > >>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and harder to > find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if there’s only > 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + event type. > >>> > >>> WDYT? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Caty > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < [email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Caty, > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for our Notifications > UI, see > >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Let me know what you think. > >>>>> > >>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app? > >>>>> > >>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be displayed > and you > >>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or modification? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> -Vincent > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Caty > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > > > >
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
-- Thomas Mortagne
-- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project