Hello ! ;-) 2009/11/12 Ecaterina Valica <[email protected]>
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:24, Thibaut DEVERAUX <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi thanks,
I understand. :-)
Well, sites use a lot a form that is completly different than the output. This is not the best, I agree. Generally the reason is that the information from a single form is redispatched in different pages.
User understand this. The fill a form with data, and the site will use them data to create a page.
Yet, this can be a bit "burocratic" in the feelings. Also user get a bit lost in the resulting page because they have to take new reperes. Also this limit the feeling of "I create my page".
I prefer too versions most "in place", most "WYSIWYG". Well... Most in the Wiki logic too.
I think you can even do best than doubling the name as a compromise to make it :
http://thibaut.deveraux.free.fr/xwiki/Profil-In_place_render.png
http://thibaut.deveraux.free.fr/xwiki/Profil-In_place_edit.png
Interesting concept - I am not really sure about the implementation of the fields inside the page's title. This is a classic "edit in place" pattern. Could be useful also when we are editing the page's name, content, etc. The problem is that this pattern isn't widely adopted inside XWiki's implementation.
You speak of using "in place" evrywhere ? It should, lol. ^_^ More seriously, this is a mater of choice for the UX strategy. I would recomand it, yet it is only my advice. :-)
Have a nice day
Thibaut
PS :
/!\ Sharing the UX sources in an Open Source project /!\
It took me more than half an hour to photoshop your renders to make my proposal. If I had sources I could modify quickly, it would have been 5mn.
A simple mockup on the paper does not help enough to make a comparaison. (Using feelings to drive thinking is important too)
Yet, here, this is complicated. You use HTML to make your proposals. I'm most at ease with Photoshop/Gimp/svg. So I'm not sure it would take me
less
time if I get to design in HTML.
Since I start working for XWiki I had SVG mockups, HTML/CSS mockups or even partial prototypes. There is no "standard" format when I make mockups - it's all a matter of the complexity/time degree of the proposal and also the probability that someone else will want to modify them (this probability slightly increased in the past time).
Cool, I understood it bad last time. :-)
Nice you use also svg. I'm using this one a lot, find it to be faster to re-arrange, make tests, etc.
All of this does not really makes it easy open source UX collaboration. I don't know what to say. You have to use the medium you are the most at ease too, so I don't have the solution...
At least please share your HTML files, if this is simplely a few lines to change it will be faster in HTML.
I'll do more of that in the future. The thing with sharing HTML/CSS is that when you make mockups with this technologies, you don't necessarily clean them - since you are experimenting a lot.
Lol, add a warning at the top of the file ? ;-)
CC-BY-SA-Don'tCleanIt Liscence... Files that are not clean and should not be cleaned because it would be a waste of time. ^_^
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Have a nice day ! Thibaut