So basicly you have a set of user that are used to the old way. Theses users will see that one day, the order of the buttons change and they get lost during a few days, cliking on the old places of buttons. UX Design field, and especially ergonomy are full of "historical reasons", things that have not been changed because of it. I remember of such sort of thing about keyboards ie. Another example is some dyctalos that always use anachronic versions of MS Word on old computers because they are used of it. An historical reasons is a good thing for user that are used of something. Evrything depends if there is an impact on new users and further generations. So if there is a further generation of users on toucan consider that they will be penalised by the historical reasons. World is already so full of anachronysmes... ;-) 2009/9/14 Anca Luca <[email protected]>:
Ecaterina Valica wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:04, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Hi,
Because we want to make a standard from vertical-aligned form, this means the buttons should be left-ordered with the most important action first. This should be changed also in Toucan and Albatross skin, not only just in Colibri. I just noticed the change made on all skins, and I don't find it comfortable to have this change in toucan because:
I think, as in the case of titles policy, that we're building a new, better skin and changes like this should be in the new skin. I find it disturbing to have different order for buttons than I was used to, and, although I agree to get used to it in a new skin, I don't find it appropriate that I have to get used to it on the old skin too. I think users should be able to preserve their beloved skin which they're used to if they want, including buttons order.
We agreed that this order caused confusion between some users and was better to be changed. You're saying something like: don't change it (even if it's broken), just because I'm used to it.
Yes.
but only in the current context, when we _are_ actually fixing _all_ these issues, by building a new skin, otherwise I don't see why we build a new skin and not fix the one we have.
Now I'm not trying to justify the new skin by not merging the fixes in the old one, it's just that this is the kind of annoying change and, since we are dramatically improving everything in a new skin, I don't see why annoy users and apply these disruptive changes in the old skin too.
just my 0.2 cents...
Thanks, Anca
The change was made for the benefit of all users.
Caty motivated this change across all skins with the fact that form design (alignments, buttons order, et all) it's a platform standard and platform changes are applied to all skins.
I think these standards are UI/UX/ergonomy standards and they should only be preserved across a skin. On the very same platform one could build a right aligned skin, it doesn't impact the platform in any way, I don't see why we would impose this as a "platform thing".
This is the type of annoying change for a user (I keep going to the wrong side of the screen with my mouse) and, while I'm ok with getting used to it on a new skin, I find it slightly frustrating on the skin I was used to.
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