2016-11-22 15:25 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
On 22 Nov 2016, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
2016-11-22 14:39 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:18, Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
2016-11-22 13:16 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
On 22 Nov 2016, at 12:13, Guillaume Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi everybody.
Today I would like to speak about an issue that annoys me for years.
We are working on a tool whose one of the objectives is to stop scattering information in multiple places. It's even the main argument explained
in
the video integrated on the home page of XWiki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTWrZ7OfzI.
But on the other hand, we, developers of XWiki, do the opposite in practice. We discuss on mailing lists that are archived on Markmail,
we
report issues on Jira and we do investigations on design.xwiki.org, and I don't even count Github.
Honestly I don’t see the relationship between the tool we develop and how it’s developed. These are completely separate things!
We develop a tool that centralize information and we don't use it to centralize our own informations, except documentation.
Using a car is pretty easy but creating one is hard. That’s normal and expected :)
Yes but if you also create a tool to help you creating a car and you don't use it yourself,
XWiki is not a tool to help develop software. It can be used for some parts of the software development process (the documentation part, the requirements part, etc). But for example it won’t help you store your sources files and it won’t help you develop your Java Code (your IDE will though).
I completely agree and there is no discord on this.
But I still believe that if we promote our tool as a better alternative for emails and we keep sending brainstorm, votes, news, we're not giving a consistent signal.
I’m not sure I agree that a wiki (xwiki or any wiki) should replace email.
I see a wiki as a way to extract pure knowledge from their temporary places (irc, mailing lists, etc) into a place where it can be aggregated and augmented, representing the sum of knowledge on a topic.
This is the upcoming knowledge-base flavor. But I have always considered XWiki to be more than that. We have put a lot of effort to create: - Application Within Minutes (it makes me thing about Microsoft Access) - File Manager Application (there is Cloud solutions for that) - XPoll Application - Task Manager Application - Ideas Application and so on... Anyway I've read (partially) the other threads about this subject and I understand the counter-arguments now. I don't fully agree but I can understand. Thanks, Guillaume