And move the jira project to retired projects category. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
Since XE 5.2 has been released I just moved XEM to xwiki-contrib with a README.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> wrote:
- move the github repo to xwiki-contrib/retired
I guess you mean "move the github repo to xwiki-contrib" because merging XEM and retired repository would be a pain (a not even sure it would work fully). I prefer to just move the repo to contrib and indicate it's retired like we did for other modules.
Yes I agree. We'll just need a README.md to let the users know it's not active anymore.
We need to decide on a rule for retired project (not sure we agreed although we discussed it). I also much prefer keeping each extension in its own repo and mention in a README.md about its status.
Thanks -Vincent
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:
+1
Thanks, Eduard
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
Almost everybody has voted so I think this proposal is approved.
2013/9/13 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]>
On 09/13/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 09/11/2013 05:58 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote: >>> Since Enterprise embeds Workspaces by default since 5.2-m2, I think it does >>> not make any sense to release XWiki Manager (XEM) anymore. >>> >>> The build is currently broken (because of the XAR organization changes). >>> >>> So I propose to remove XWiki Manager: >>> - stop releasing it >>> - move the github repo to xwiki-contrib/retired >>> - update manager.xwiki.org to explain the changes in XWiki 5.2. >>> - move the manager jira to the retired category >>> - remove the build in ci.xwiki.org >>> >>> Here is my non-binding +1. >>> >>> LM >> >> -1. This is very premature, the new workspaces haven't been available >> for a long enough time to be sure it is a good replacement for XEM. >> >> Do workspaces fulfill all the needs of existing XEM users? > > XEM became a workspaces manager in 3.3 (see > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-202) so there is nothing new here. > The only difference between the new XE and XEM is that wiki manager UI > is not included while it was hidden in XEM so it's not a big change > for users since it's super easy to install with Extension Manager. > > XEM is and always been pretty much only a set of pom.xml files with > dependencies and not much more than a home page. Guillaume moved > Workspaces from XEM to XE making XEM pretty much useless now. > >> >> Does the new implementation offer support for the Farm usage? > > You can install Wiki Manager UI using Extension Manager. > >> >> Is there a clear migration path? Manual or automatic? >> >> Is the new wiki management UI going to be at least as easy to use as the >> old one? What's the learning curve for administrators? >> >> >> If the build is broken, it's easier to fix it than to upset a large >> userbase. Why do we insist so much on maintaining backwards >> compatibility for Java APIs that we're almost certain nobody uses, yet >> we're OK with dropping an entire product without a proven alternative, >> hoping that in one or two more releases that alternative will actually >> be fully implemented? > > The point here is that the alternative is XE. We don't remove XEM > because the build is broken... It simply does not worth the effort to > keep it anymore since XE expose the same features.
Given that as a downstream user I don't really use multiwikis in any way, this doesn't affect me at all. So +1, less code is always better. One product less means less confusion for users.
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