On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
Denis, as you said, the new subwiki has the same rights as the main one.
But in 5.2.x, with the old Workspaces Application, the new subwiki had also the view right given to xwiki:XWiki.XWikiAllGroup.
In other words, any global user had the right to view the new subwiki.
Since 5.3, the rights are only set for local users AND members of the subwiki. Which means that a global user who is not a member does not have the right to see the subwiki (which is a bit strange, because Guest user might have the right to see it meanwhile a global user does not).
Conclusion: the default rights in a subwiki are not the same before 5.3 and after.
My question is: what should we decide?
IMO the main issue here is that guest can have more rights than a user and we should really improve that instead (which is strictly about rights and not really related to wiki module).
Louis-Marie
2014-02-05 18:43 GMT+01:00 Denis Gervalle <[email protected]>:
I am not sure to understand want you exactly want agreement on, and what you expect to fix. I just tried setting up new wikis in 5.4, and I have not found anything related to a workspace template or whatever. The DW properly setups the new wiki with similar rights to the main wiki: XWikiAllGroup has view, edit... and XWikiGuest has view
So I do not get the point of this thread for 5.4.1, sorry.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
Do everybody agree on this before I start the implementation for 5.4.1?
2014-01-31 Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]>:
I agree with Edy. View right should be on by default and the subwiki admins should be able to restrict it.
Thanks, Marius
On Jan 30, 2014 7:53 PM, "Eduard Moraru" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Well, the idea of Workspaces was to promote collaboration and
openness.
Joining a workspace was about gaining the ability to collaborate (edit), while viewing the contents by default was about the "wiki principle". The idea was just like in the main wiki, you are a (new?) user who can view everything that others do (by default) but can only edit things you own or that have been granted edit access to. Why should other wikis be different, when it is supposed to be an ecosystem? How would it feel like to be a new user in a wiki where you can not see any existing or new documents/spaces unless you`re explicitly given access to?
I`m not sure it's such a great idea to lock stuff up by default in a wiki. You do this kind of stuff with other types of software, but, by default, it should not be done with a wiki. Note: We`ll not get in a discussion about edit rights being on by default, AFAIK this being another wiki principle (more or less).
Of course, being an enterprise wiki, we should have the *possibility/option* to lock or hide some parts off, but that`s not the point. The question was about what to do by default.
That`s how I see it at least.
Thanks, Eduard
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs.
Since 5.3, we have this issue opened: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9726 - The default rights of subwikis has changed.
I am not shocked by the new settings - same as in the main wiki - but it is different from what Workspaces used to be.
What do you think about it?
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