On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
Problem: Drop the concept of workspace and use wiki
Short version: * 'wiki' is a confusing term generally associated with 'Wikipedia', representing the ability to write mostly documentation and not 'all-powerful collection of applications and pages that can do anything we want it to'
* 'workspace' is be a better name for normal users, since it's more descriptive and easy to digest (more familiar for non technical users)
* 'workspace' having just this term could lead to another confusion related to the hierarchy 'Workspace' - 'Space' - 'Page' : "Why a 'work'space can contain multiple spaces?"
* 'XWiki is all about the notion of wiki ... even in its name'
* 'workspaces' was implemented as a subwiki because of technical limitations having space in space concept
My conclusions: * I didn't liked the fact that workspace is a long term (very hard to make it fit in the UI), but this is irrelevant
* I do prefer simpler terms like 'wiki', 'space', 'page', but we should use them consistent [another problem we have is the usage between document and page (again technical vs. users perspective)]
* I also think is confusing having both terms 'wiki' and 'workspace' in the same UI because is very hard to explain what is the difference between them (because they seem to be on the same level of hierarchy, while conceptual they are not). Every time we try to describe them we just enumerate the technical differences: ** 'workspace' = subwiki + global users + ability to create other workspaces for normal users + ability to join a workspace + slim isolation (just grouping of applications and users) ** 'wiki' = subwiki + can have global or local users + they can be created only by admins + they can be completely isolated
* IMO Workgroup term is better than Workspace (it doesn't have the containing 'space' word in it, which could lead to confusions and is also descriptive). The Workgroup allows the user to group application and users and let them work on their project. A Workgroup can have multiple content spaces, that contain multiple pages. A Workgroup contains applications dedicated to a group of people.
I agree that "workgroup" or "group" for short is better than workspace. I'm still unsure if it's better than "(sub)wiki" though.
The only potential downside is the collision with "user group". I would have liked "group" except for this… Add > Group can be misled with adding a user group… Thanks -Vincent [snip]