On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
Hi Vincent,
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi devs,
Since Eduard has developed the workspaces module (see http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Workspace+Application) I'd like to push for using it in our XEM distribution.
However there are 2 valid uses cases that exist: 1) Using XE + workspaces, for creating workspaces (technically each workspace being a wiki) 2) Using XE as a wiki farm
I think that use case 1) is the main use case for most people and this vote is about keeping the XEM packaging/branding but repurposing so that XEM implements use case 1). Use case 2) exists but it's less frequent and for more technically advanced users.
So here's my proposal (and what you should vote on):
A) XEM = app manager module + wiki manager module + workspaces module(s). XEM home page becomes the workspaces app home page. We update manager.xwiki.org to align it with the fact that it now boasts the workspaces features. B) On http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Virtualizationwe keep documenting how to transform XE into a wiki farm
C) We create an application in xwiki-platform-core/ that contains the
current pages located in XEM (home page + the other pages). We could call it xwiki-platform-multiwiki
The pages that are strictly related to XEM can be found at https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-manager/tree/master/xwiki-manager-ui/src/main...
There, you have: * Main.WebHome -> main wiki home with a couple of words about XEM and a listing of current wikis
AFAIR there was "dashboard" on the home page: wikis you view, wikis you own, wikis you administrate, recent wikis.
The page itself just include widgets which are in wiki manager.
* XemManager.Install -> Install page for a wiki template. This page is supposed to have automatically the latest XE xar attached to it. This was working when it was part of the XEM product, but if we plan to put it into platform, we need to let the admin upload the XE xar (or any other xar that (s)he wishes to use for the template), just like we did for workspaces. * Panels.QuickLinks -> Override of the standard quick links panel that contains an extra link to the wiki manager if the current user is an admin * XemResources.* -> Translations page with 7 keys strictly related to the XemManager.Install page * Xapp.XWikiApplicationXem -> Application descriptor for the application manager. AFAIK, it's just a way to automatically register the above translations.
Now, knowing the above, does it make sense to name a platform package that is supposed to contain the above pages "xwiki-platform-multiwiki" ? If someone installs this package, they will not actually get multiwiki capabilities, they will just get a new homepage.
I think that the xwiki-platform-wiki-manager module (application) offers everything needed for the 2) wiki farm use case and that, from the platform's point of view (and maybe the user's as well), the proposed extra xwiki-platform-multiwiki would bring no value. The only valuable item is (maybe) the homepage, but I propose we drop all of the above and let users use the wiki manager application.
Good points, I agree. Makes a lot of sense.
I'd then propose to include the XEM dashboard as the WebHome of WikiManager
I don't like it very much, WikiManager home page is an admin page to manipulate wikis, this kind of dashboard would be useless for them IMO.
So you think we should just remove the dashboard? Or would you be ok to have the dashboard page in the wikimanager app but not on the home page? Thanks -Vincent
Thanks -Vincent
I`m +1 for everything else.
Thanks, Eduard
D) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-multiwiki easily will use the Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption E) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-workspace easily will use the Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption. At this point we'll decide if we want to drop the XEM distribution or keep both ways of installing it.
Here'd my +1
Thanks -Vincent