Hi Marius, On 10 Apr 2014 at 21:07:13, Marius Dumitru Florea ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote:
But developers already needs to create a UI Extension, why not a panel?
Because for the panel you'd have to write code.. Moreover, we discussed about the fact that the non-typed parameters of the UI Extension are not always a good idea and that for the application panel a dedicated class would have been better (with typed properties). There is a big difference between having:
icon: myIcon.png
and
content: #if ($panelWidth == "small") [[image:myIcon.png]] #else ## Display stuff as a list #end
The first is semantic (data) and can be reused in other places. The second would have to take the image from a property in order to not duplicate the application icon, so more code.. The first is clear to the developer: he has to specify the application icon. The second is not, without reading documentation about what to write in the panel content in order to have the application icon available for the application bar.
Maybe we should provide a template for this kind of panels so it would be very easy to create a new one, or a wizard that generates it easily?
I find it awkward to ask the dev to create a panel in order to display an icon on the application bar.
It would be awkward if that was the goal but it’s not :) There’s no notion of AppBar! It just means that if an app wants to have a panel on the side, it needs to define it as they have always done (see blog app for ex) :) So if an App wants that its users to display a panel to link to them, then they do the users a favour by creating such a panel for the users to use. Autogenerating panel would make this a special case and I’m not sure we need a special case here. Thanks -Vincent
The dev should just fill an application descriptor and then the App Bar manager (panel wizard or whatever) should create a panel on the fly (if that is needed for the underlying implementation) to display the icon/shortcut on the application bar.
Thanks, Marius
2014-04-10 16:09 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]>:
To be clear, I'm not against reusing the left panels bar for the app bar. What I don't like is asking application developers to write a panel (boilerplate code) in order to have their application listed somewhere.
Thanks, Marius
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
I don't like it very much. Instead of writing code like this:
#if ($panelWidth == "small") ## Display stuff as icons #else ## Display stuff as a list #end
in a panel, I would prefer to describe my application using an XClass (with properties for app name and icon). Then the system (XWiki, Panel Wizard, whatever) should use these data (app name and icon) to build and UI that lets the user put shortcuts to his favourite app to a bar. If you want, the system should create this "panel". Asking app developers to write this boilerplate code to have their app listed is not nice.
Thanks, Marius
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote:
Hi.
After some discussions with Caty and Vincent, we would like to propose you new ideas about the panels technology, that replaces our previous propositions about the Flamingo Applications Bar.
The proposal is there, with more explanations and screenshots: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/PanelsImprovements
Here is my +1.
Louis-Marie