On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:44, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to insert a macro in a page using the wysiwyg and I noticed that the macros filter (search box on top right) is not searching in the macro ids.

For example, if I try to write "toc" I get no results. If I write "table" I get the "Table of contents" macro as result, since its name matches. I found this a bit annoying in my case, since i know the macroid (if I were to write it in the wiki syntax) and I cannot find the macro (still, I'm using the wysiwyg because I can never remember macro params). Also, I use the search function because it's far easier to filter it out then scroll for it in the list.

WDYT about searching in the macro ids as well? (1)

Also, the macro id is not displayed. This is good for simple users for which it has no meaning, but there can be a situation when 2 macros have the same name and same description (e.g. void description) and users would want to be able to differentiate one from the other in the macros list, even the simple users, I would say (for example because they always want to use one macro of the 2 and they can never tell one from the other only by name).

WDYT about displaying the macro is as well? (2) of course pretty small and greyed out, like some advanced metadata.

Marius said it's no big deal to implement neither, as long as we agree.

My +1 for both (1) and (2).

+1 for both

Thanks, Anca

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+1 On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 15:44 +0300, Anca Luca wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to insert a macro in a page using the wysiwyg and I noticed that the macros filter (search box on top right) is not searching in the macro ids.

For example, if I try to write "toc" I get no results. If I write "table" I get the "Table of contents" macro as result, since its name matches. I found this a bit annoying in my case, since i know the macroid (if I were to write it in the wiki syntax) and I cannot find the macro (still, I'm using the wysiwyg because I can never remember macro params). Also, I use the search function because it's far easier to filter it out then scroll for it in the list.

WDYT about searching in the macro ids as well? (1)

Also, the macro id is not displayed. This is good for simple users for which it has no meaning, but there can be a situation when 2 macros have the same name and same description (e.g. void description) and users would want to be able to differentiate one from the other in the macros list, even the simple users, I would say (for example because they always want to use one macro of the 2 and they can never tell one from the other only by name).

WDYT about displaying the macro is as well? (2) of course pretty small and greyed out, like some advanced metadata.

Marius said it's no big deal to implement neither, as long as we agree.

My +1 for both (1) and (2).

Thanks, Anca

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On 06/23/2010 03:44 PM, Anca Luca wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to insert a macro in a page using the wysiwyg and I noticed that the macros filter (search box on top right) is not searching in the macro ids.

For example, if I try to write "toc" I get no results. If I write "table" I get the "Table of contents" macro as result, since its name matches. I found this a bit annoying in my case, since i know the macroid (if I were to write it in the wiki syntax) and I cannot find the macro (still, I'm using the wysiwyg because I can never remember macro params). Also, I use the search function because it's far easier to filter it out then scroll for it in the list.

WDYT about searching in the macro ids as well? (1)

I think this is an edge case, when the macro name is an abbreviation. This is also mixed with the fact that you are a technical user. Most of the time the macro name is very close to the macro id ("myCoolMacro" vs. "My Cool Macro"). So IMO this is a false problem. Also, I think it can be confusing if the result list contains an item that doesn't include the search/filter term ("xyz" is displayed but I searched for "abc"). This brings us to the second proposal below.

Also, the macro id is not displayed. This is good for simple users for which it has no meaning, but there can be a situation when 2 macros have the same name and same description (e.g. void description) and users would want to be able to differentiate one from the other in the macros list, even the simple users, I would say (for example because they always want to use one macro of the 2 and they can never tell one from the other only by name).

WDYT about displaying the macro is as well? (2) of course pretty small and greyed out, like some advanced metadata.

I don't think displaying the macro id is a good idea at all: * macro id is an information that the average user isn't interested in * most of the time we would be displaying the same information twice ("Velociy" vs. "velocity" and "myCoolMacro" vs. "My Cool Macro"). This will clutter the dialog and will confuse the user. * all macros should have a good title and description; it's the responsibility of the macro author to provide them; as a user I wouldn't be tempted to use a macro that is not well described. Again, I think the use case with the two macros that have the same title and description is an edge case and it's doesn't show a real problem.

Marius said it's no big deal to implement neither, as long as we agree.

My +1 for both (1) and (2).

I'm -0 for (1) and close to -1 for (2). Thanks, Marius

Thanks, Anca

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+1 for (1), it could not really hurt and +1 for (2) in tooltips but close to (-1) for (2) displayed in small since I agree with Marius Denis On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:44, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to insert a macro in a page using the wysiwyg and I noticed that the macros filter (search box on top right) is not searching in the macro ids.

For example, if I try to write "toc" I get no results. If I write "table" I get the "Table of contents" macro as result, since its name matches. I found this a bit annoying in my case, since i know the macroid (if I were to write it in the wiki syntax) and I cannot find the macro (still, I'm using the wysiwyg because I can never remember macro params). Also, I use the search function because it's far easier to filter it out then scroll for it in the list.

WDYT about searching in the macro ids as well? (1)

Also, the macro id is not displayed. This is good for simple users for which it has no meaning, but there can be a situation when 2 macros have the same name and same description (e.g. void description) and users would want to be able to differentiate one from the other in the macros list, even the simple users, I would say (for example because they always want to use one macro of the 2 and they can never tell one from the other only by name).

WDYT about displaying the macro is as well? (2) of course pretty small and greyed out, like some advanced metadata.

Marius said it's no big deal to implement neither, as long as we agree.

My +1 for both (1) and (2).

Thanks, Anca

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