On 11/29/2010 12:20 PM, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:

On 11/29/2010 05:05 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

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Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser> How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki> You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe> I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser> joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser> left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

+1

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Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

+1 Not sure if current behavior was even intentional to begin with.

Caleb

Well, this can be very easily fixed (already modified on my local instance)

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I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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+1 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]> wrote:

On 11/29/2010 12:05 PM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

...

Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

...

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

+1

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Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser>  How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki>  You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe>  I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser>  joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser>  left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

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Version 2 : remove then from logging

+1

Thanks, Marius

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sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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On 11/29/2010 02:42 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:

On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

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Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser> How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki> You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe> I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser> joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser> left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

Version 2 (without the space before the ":") or Version 3 are fine with me. A small pref for version 3 since it's one char less.

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Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

ok to remove information not typed by users from the logs (user coming in, going out, etc).

I was refering to removing only the ip address or host name. You think we should remove joins/parts too ?

Thanks -Vincent

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I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B.

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On 11/29/2010 03:54 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

On 11/29/2010 11:05 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

...

Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

+1

+1 for V2, but: - no space before : - no : on system lines (join, quit, nick change...)

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Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser> How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki> You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe> I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser> joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser> left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

I'd rather keep them, since it might be a reference for identifying suspicious activity. The privacy gain from not logging the IP is minimal, since that information is already available live on IRC.

I sort of agree with Sergiu here, it's not the only potential privacy issue, which is why we warn that the channel is archived. Therefore I am 0 on this. If we could make it so that it's not displayed on the IRC channel, I would be +1. Thanks, Anca

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Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 18:05, Sorin Burjan <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello devs,

In my effort to make IRC logging as readable as possible, nick coloring is the next step. Vincent told me that we can use pygments for coloring the IRC syntax. Pygments is also used in code macro as a highlighter for different syntaxes.

The only disadvantage is that pygments needs IRC logs to be in irssi style. This means that nickname need to be wrapped around < > chars.

So we have 3 options :

1. Don't use pygments and keep the following syntax (we will loose coloring)

       17:59 @sburjan Syntax coloring is cool

2. Use pygments and have syntax coloring. The syntax will look like:

17:59 <@sburjan> The coloring is cool

3.Use pygments and write a custom lexer that colors IRC syntax that doesn't have the < > chars. This would look like: 17:59 @sburjan The coloring is cool

I am +1 for 3, but someone with knowledge will have to make it.

IMO 2 is enough and better than 1 for sure anyway. When you have highlithing syntax is not that important. For 3 what is needed is more python knowledge than pygments.

Cast your vote.

Regards, Sorin B.

...

Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser>  How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki>  You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe>  I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser>  joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser>  left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

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-- Thomas Mortagne

On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:

On 12/08/2010 07:05 PM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

...

Hello devs,

In my effort to make IRC logging as readable as possible, nick coloring is the next step. Vincent told me that we can use pygments for coloring the IRC syntax. Pygments is also used in code macro as a highlighter for different syntaxes.

The only disadvantage is that pygments needs IRC logs to be in irssi style. This means that nickname need to be wrapped around< > chars.

So we have 3 options :

1. Don't use pygments and keep the following syntax (we will loose coloring)

17:59 @sburjan Syntax coloring is cool

...

2. Use pygments and have syntax coloring. The syntax will look like:

17:59<@sburjan> The coloring is cool

+1, < and > are not that bad. We can implement (3) later.

No please don't write anything custom. It's a pain and costs to maintain it. Please let's go with standards. It doesn't matter really. I don't even understand why we're having this discussion.... code macro supports "irc" language, let's just use it and be done. Thanks -Vincent

Thanks, Marius

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3.Use pygments and write a custom lexer that colors IRC syntax that doesn't have the< > chars. This would look like: 17:59 @sburjan The coloring is cool

I am +1 for 3, but someone with knowledge will have to make it.

Cast your vote.

Regards, Sorin B.

...

Hello devs,

I have a proposal to make about the IRCbot Application. As you know, the bot logs the channel and saves the content in order to make it viewable from the xwiki designated page.

I would like to propose two things :

Proposal 1 In order to make archive logs more easily readable and more easy to follow, I would like to change the way the logs are saved. I would like to use a standard format (also used my all major IRC clients like Pidgin, IRC, XChat, irssi, etc). Because date/time will have always the same length, aligning it and putting it at the begginning of the line, makes the text more easy to follow. So, the proposals are :

Version 1 (the one we have now)

user1 - (20:07): You can comment if you have edit right JohnDoe - (20:07): ok, thx for the answer IreallyLoveXWiki - (20:07): I’m off for today, bye XWikiNormalUser left at 20:07 (Quit: Leaving. EnterpriseUser joined #xwiki at 20:38 EnterpriseUser left at 20:38 (Client Quit sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Note that the ")" doesn't appear on logs, so this should be fixed any way.

Version 2

[11:05] XWikiNormalUser : How can I edit a page? [11:05] IreallyLoveXWiki : You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05] JohnDoe : I love Open Source ! [22:55] EnterpriseUser : joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56] EnterpriseUser : left at 20:38 (Client Quit [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Version 3

[11:05]<XWikiNormalUser> How can I edit a page? [11:05]<IreallyLoveXWiki> You have to be logged in order to do that [11:05]<JohnDoe> I love Open Source ! [22:55]<EnterpriseUser> joined #xwiki at 20:38 [22:56]<EnterpriseUser> left at 20:38 (Client Quit)

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B. [14:22] sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected])

Proposal 2 We also log the user ip/host addresses when user joins. This also makes the line much longer with information that it's not needed IMO. This could be also a privacy concert, because your ip/host address is exposed to anyone who uses xwiki.org .

Version 1 : keep these addresses in log (like we have now)

sburjan is now known as sburjan1 ([email protected]

Version 2 : remove then from logging

sburjan is now known as sburjan1

I am +1 for 1.3 and +1 for 2.1

Please send your feedback and even your proposals if you have one.

WDYT ?

Regards, Sorin B.