[xwiki-devs] [Vote] Move the 'paste office content' feature from the import menu to the tool bar?
Hi, Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries: * 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents) We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers. I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar. (1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution? (2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu? I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar. Thanks, Marius
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
+1 since it's way too hidden in the import menu and not logical for the majority of users.
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu?
+1 for me especially in view of (1) (ie people don't expect paste to be an import). I don't have a problem with a single menu entry (note that the Image menu also has a single entry....). Thanks -Vincent
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius
Hi, On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:47, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
+1 since it's way too hidden in the import menu and not logical for the majority of users.
+1 too.
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the
Import menu?
+1 for me especially in view of (1) (ie people don't expect paste to be an import). I don't have a problem with a single menu entry (note that the Image menu also has a single entry....).
+1, I agree with Vincent, and me might have other types of import in the future (who knows?). Guillaume
Thanks -Vincent
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius
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Hi, On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu?
+1 for both. Thanks. - Asiri
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:37, Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
+1
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu?
+0
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Thomas Mortagne
I'm ok with having a toolbar icon (1), but I don't think that will improve very much the discoverability. I think that the problem users had is related to the naming of "Import". I think we should rename that section to "Office Import", because those two entries are doing just that, working with Office content. Also, the icon of the "Office Import" needs to contain the "W" symbol (just like the other two), we could put page_white_word.gif (W) So, the idea is something like: (W) Office Import (W) Import Document ([ ]w) Copy/Paste from Office If, in the future, we'll have other ways to import, then a general "Import" menu would make sense. Caty On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 14:00, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:37, Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
+1
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu?
+0
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
-- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
I'm ok with having a toolbar icon (1), but I don't think that will improve very much the discoverability.
I think that the problem users had is related to the naming of "Import". I think we should rename that section to "Office Import", because those two entries are doing just that, working with Office content.
Also, the icon of the "Office Import" needs to contain the "W" symbol (just like the other two), we could put page_white_word.gif (W)
So, the idea is something like: (W) Office Import (W) Import Document ([ ]w) Copy/Paste from Office
If, in the future, we'll have other ways to import, then a general "Import" menu would make sense.
Caty, the paste has nothing to do with open office... I also prefer to have an import menu entry rather than office import since it allows to import other type of content in the future. -Vincent
Caty
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 14:00, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:37, Marius Dumitru Florea <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Currently the Import menu of the WYSIWYG editor has two entries:
* 'Office Document' for importing office files * 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' for pasting rich text (copied usually from office documents)
We had a few complains from uses that were pasting the rich text directly in the edited document causing the editor to misbehave or getting unexpected content after save. When they were told to use the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu they seemed surprised
Ideally the editor should catch the paste event and clean the pasted rich text on the fly before it is inserted in the edited document but currently there's no clean way to do this: access to the clipboard is restricted for security reasons and the paste event is not well supported in all major browsers.
I recently committed a change to the WYSIWYG editor to allow putting any of the Import menu entries on the tool bar.
(1) Should we enable the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' button on the tool bar by default in the standard XE distribution?
+1
(2) Should we remove the 'Office Content (Copy / Paste)' entry from the Import menu?
+0
I'm +1 for (1) and -0 for (2) because the Import menu would look awkward with just one entry. Note that it's not unusual to have a feature both in the menu and in the tool bar.
Thanks, Marius
participants (6)
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Asiri Rathnayake -
Ecaterina Valica -
Guillaume Lerouge -
Marius Dumitru Florea -
Thomas Mortagne -
Vincent Massol