I have created a space "Engineering". I have changed the default space in xwiki.cfg to Engineering, this works. A few questions: - Is this the best way to change the default space? - Is there a way to change the default space per group? - Can I effectively trap a group of users into one space? - I can hack the theme so the logo takes you back to Engineering instead of Main, but is this the best way? Thanks, Scott ----- "Scott Serr" <[email protected]> wrote:
Vincent and Wouter -- thanks for the great responses. I'll try to take your advice and tweak just a space for normal users.
One thing I've identified that would be nice, but I don't know how to do... I'd like the Document Metadata panel that is below the content panel to _not_ appear, unless someone selects Comments, Annotations, Attachments, History, Information in the top right corner of the content panel. I think this must be possible, the reason, why else would there be two ways to navigate to it -- top right of content _and_ tabs on meta panel. (I'm aware of turning off each Doc Metadata tab from the Page Elements... but I don't want them off, just not expanded out.)
^ That would simplify the look quite a bit.
I've started some notes so I can reproduce what I'm doing at some point: (scripting myself)
Create a new group "Wiki Users" Create some users as Wiki Users Login as them to see what a non-admin sees Probably have 2 different browsers to keep flipping back and forth Create a new Space, one which will be the normal user's default Keep default skin so you don't stray from supported world Go to Administer Wiki -> Look & Feel Presentation you can change the color of the default skin Page Elements -> turn off left panel, turn on right panel, etc Panel Wizard -> choose what you want in the right panel
There are more things I'd like to do: Backlinks has redundant pages something like " | sort | uniq" is needed. A bug? Add Search in right panel and remove X-WIKI header of page. Header must be somewhere in the skin?
Thanks guys -- I hope to help out with the "minimal config" page.
----- "Vincent Massol" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote:
Hi,
Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar packages to download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki according to the features we're looking for.
What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;)
… which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing a nice UI but the features are there). We need the max # of people to try it out and report issue if any.
Thanks -Vincent
Regards
Guillaume
2011/9/8 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
Hi Wouter,
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more
easy to use
for
content managers with no coding background, it will lower the treshold for people wanting to use xwiki.
Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities that for people like me who focus primarily on content management and usability and are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit complicated.
IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you stated allready. Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, sort them, and use them to create the guide?
yep that's the idea.
Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready?
No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in the draft section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough to move it to the final location (AdminGuide): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Because then we would create it accordingly.
Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/
Thanks -Vincent
Thanks for the thoughts,
Wouter
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi guys,
It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic of stripping the default XE.
Basically you have 2 approaches: 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty wiki, no pages) 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it
Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need or not. Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove things than to create new stuff from nothing :)
If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you how to turn them off/make them disappear.
Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great if you guys could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and stip down xwiki!
Thanks -Vincent
On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote:
> Hi Scott, > I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue here. > > What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in which I > created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. > This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and look at the > panel wizard. > Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your layout. > You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main wiki > (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want to change > this, the same goes for the displayed search results. > You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at the bottom > of the page or not, etc. > > IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total control of > what the endusers can see and are allowed to do. > > I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel free to let > me know. > > Kind regards and good luck, > > Wouter > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki >> configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is pretty >> complex. >> >> I'd like users to see this: >> content (edit, print) >> search box >> minimal side bar >> backlinks >> (and not much more) >> >> Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees to the bare >> essentials? >> >> Thanks, >> Scott
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